This is becoming an epidemic!

You don't enjoy dying to Wesker every game with 4 gens left? Lol

Why are players killing themselves on hook?

Is it because none of their team mates are coming to save them? Then they're right to get out of the match, it's already doomed because the survivor team has zero coordination. There is no solution for this, it is the players faults.

Is it because they're being camped? Well the anti-camping mechanic will make that less likely. You'll be better off hanging on until 59 seconds then unhooking yourself, even if you get tunnelled and hooked again, because you'll get to waste a lot more of the killers time and score a ton of BP in the process.

Is it because they don't like the killer? Similar to the first point, there's no accounting for bad survivor behaviour. The only real solution to this is to address the balance for that killer in question. It won't solve every case, but it will save some.

DC penalty can never go away. Bots aren't a valid replacement for an actual player, and it will break the MMR system.

It does, or there would be no complaints about it and nobody would care about their MMR.

Top 5% MMR is an entirely different world, and new players are separated from the general population.

I'd you DC so much that the penalty becomes a problem, that's probably a sign you should play something else.

Self unhooking without a perk should only be possible 10 seconds before going into struggle and maybe instead of 4% chance of escaping it should be 15%

No just no the bots are a bandage fix in order for the other survivors to not just quit if 1 dcs if you gotta dc every other game then its your skill that’s bad

DCS an give up on hooks seem to be most of the kill rates in this game

BHVR has already said they aren't removing DC penalty. This is an online game. You are (hopefully) a person and you are playing against other people. The intent is for this to continue being an online game. Stop trying to turn this into a bot game, what's wrong with you? Bots are just the very last resort. The solution to anything will NEVER be to remove DC penalty.

The Devs shouldn't do anything about self elimination or self unhooking until they do something about Camping.

Camping a survivor without allowing them to jump off the hook or self-elimited is holding them hostage in a match where they don't get to do anything.

Well I actually don't think removing self elimination or self unhooking would be a good idea cuz people would dc if there not having fun anyway.

If the teammates are doing nothing but Plot Twisting and Urban Evading around the map, and I'm hanging on second hook with 4 gens still remaining, then yes, I'm going to go next. 😡

As long as the DC penalty exists in its current state, people will continue to throw on hook. And as the devs have said that they're not removing the penalty, there's nothing we can do about that.

But what they need to do is make DC'ing the more appealing option, which means that the penalty will need to be adjusted. I say they should put a cap on it. There is absolutely NO reason why the penalty should stack up to the point where you have to wait literal DAYS before you can queue up again. I would say cap it at an hour or something. That should be enough time for the person to calm down from whatever rage they were feeling, and maybe they'll be done for the day altogether while doing something else while waiting for that penalty to end.

Another possibility is some kind of strike system. For example, three DC's would lead to a 24-hour ban or something. Or maybe five DC's, who knows? But IMO, there should NEVER be a permanent ban just for DC's. But I don't see that point changing either. But these ideas would make people more willing to accept the penalty while still discouraging DC'ing willy nilly.

You don’t need to “spell it out” for me, thanks. Yes, I didn’t deny that there’s a contingency of players who just do it out of rage/entitlement. I’ve seen people rage quit because they’ve gone down too quickly in chase or have simply been outplayed by the killer. Again, I’m not denying that.

However, you and I both know the game has a wide array of issues for both sides. It’s simply hyperbole to suggest all cases of DC’ing/giving up on hook are done out of spite/game rage. As I said, if you’re getting facecamped/BM’d on hook, what exactly is the incentive to continue the match!? Or if you’re down in the basement with an insidious Bubba staring at you? In those cases it’s a game of hook simulator and if you’re not having fun you don’t owe any other players anything.

you say “the health of the game” should be paramount, and whilst I agree, it’s an obtuse way of looking at things to suggest that giving up on hook is the root of the problem. Again, I’m not dismissing there can be an element of people being sore losers, but also, what about the others who are having really unfun/unfair games and decide their time is better spent elsewhere? Just because you’re able overlook it and move on to the next game it doesn’t mean others should have to. Also, life happens: I’ve been mid-match before now and allowed myself to die on hook because I’ve had to take an important call, felt unwell, answered the door, etc. Your exact logic can be applied to teammates DC’ing/giving up on hook: GG move onto next game.

Since bots are a thing i had much more hook suicides than before. Earlier there was more DC... idk, people are doing this to screw team?

DC penalties are harsher now and people are still DCing at random in my games.

There will always be players who would like to exit game as soon as possible just becuase something went not as they planned - they saw killer they did not wanted, they got hook before first gen pops, etc.

You are wrong. Too many entitled people in this game. It is not about the fun, they just get tilted, or they think they are better then how the killer outplayed them, or their deliverence is gone now.... So they DC or kill themself. Those would suicide just as much.

The flaw in your logic is that you assume that every single person tries to throw on hook because they want to quit the match. But there are also scenarios where you have no other choice by to attempt the self-unhook, such as when everyone else is slugged, or the team just outright refuses to save you, or if there's one other person remaining and you sacrifice yourself to give them a chance at the hatch. Unfortunately, there's no way for the game to distinguish between those scenarios, and that is why banning people for attempted self-unhooks should absolutely NOT be a thing.