Any solo survivors enjoying the current meta?

Killer lobbies I face a bundle of high prestige.

Survivor lobby I play with level 1 and 2 prestige and im always highest on 17.

Solo is easy, but as knight its a proper struggle against survivors that know what they're doing whilst atleast 2 of them run MFT. Playing as Oni is easier but I still have to try hard to win.

The survivor icons are training wheels now, too much information has made it way easier than it used to be for solos.

unless you are talking about only A / S tier killer , otherwise if u think survivor is hard when having decent teammates , thats just a skill issue.

the MFT / second chance meta right now for survivor is the easiest thing in the world , go to a safe pallet , loop tighly , drop , hold W.

and if the killer hits you , u get rewarded with 3% perma haste that literally makes loops that where 50/50 into 75/25 which is dumb on top of the fact the MFT makes holding W even more effective which is boring and braindead .

soo yeah , the only reason why survivors are dying against non-top tier killer its because they are just BAD honestly , the have the tools to reach the endgame easily but they dont use them , and as someone that plays a lot of solo Q , am tired of having teammates that actively do nothing in the match other than putting the team in danger with their bad plays:

Reassurance (only requires 1 guy having it to counter camping entirely plus a new mechanic to combat that is on the way)

DS - OTR (counters tunneling)

DH -MFT (second chances on chases)

Unbreakable (counter slugging)

Dejavu (perma 6% repair bonus + always warns you about avoiding 3 gens)

thats just the average tools that survivor had to make any B to F tier killer lose the game without sweating just playing smarter and GOOD at chases.

Dude , I get kills on accident (like I thought the survivor had more hooks than they did). You're just bad at the game. There are lots of tutorials from streamers that can help you get more kills and kill streaks. But you won't see any noteworthy soloQ streaks these days.

not every solo Q team is bad , is just luck , yeah lack of MIC is a thing but sometimes u can get:

4 solid solo players not veterans but decent enough to take chases and know how to use tiles = 3 man escape probably

next match:

2 new players - 2 veteran player that actually play really good = Average draw either 2 kills or just 1.

next match:

1 bad clicky clicky player - 2 new players - 1 decent player = Killer destroys them due to lack of people pushing gens.

next match:

2 good players - 1 bad player - 1 new player = if the veterans take the agroo , more likely to end in 2 people escaping

and there and soo on , sometimes i get good teams and other times the most useless people in the planet , thats how solo Q always has been , the problem is that after soo many years , the amount of veterans has been pretty low lately because of either they got bored or the just QUIT the game at some point. (70% of the solo Q playerbase are new players to average)

I've honestly never even understood the problem some people have with solo survivor. Run Kindred so you can see what's going on and either Blast Mine or Wire Tap to let teammates know where the gens are. If Kindred hasn't come up yet just run Bond it's fine in the meantime. If you haven't got Dwight up to prestige 3 yet, lol, your opinion doesn't matter. So many of the problems in solo spawn from people picking really stupid perks that do nothing to help the team communicate. You don't need 4 of them (I actually try to run at least 2 of a character's personal perks just to give the game some actual flavour) but even 1 goes a long way. Help yourself.

It's honestly not that hard? I dunno. People complain about it all the time but to me playing in a team coordinating everything they do would be so absurdely easy I can't imagine enjoying it for more than a game or two.

Solo survivor has gotten better significantly since the 6th anniversary (I took a break a few months after that until recently) and it's not even close. Lots of quality games unless you just play bad and pick useless perks that don't help in solo. I have never played in any coordinated survivor team, I have never played a single game using discord voice chat (lol, imagine not winning every game 4-0 doing that, I think players caught doing it should be banned outright but that's a different thread).

The whining about solo Q being too hard ranks about the same for me as people calling the killer walking forward "tunneling". Mass hysteria about nothing.

Well surely killers do have fun getting all gens done before 4 mins and survivors rubbing it on you as much as possible..

Both sides are on a terrible state.. tunneling at 5 gens because 1 terrible chase puts you at 2 gens vs efficient survivors.

It's a never ending cycle..

1. Sounds like your teammates are bad. Unfortunately this happens sometimes. But let me put it into perspective for you with some math.

If the killer starts 16 meters away from you, and you are healthy, and you both just run in a straight line, how long does it take the killer to down you and put you on a hook?

For context as well, load up a game as trapper in a custom game, and lunge 3 times. That is actually almost 19 meters, to give you some idea of just how close 16 meters really is.

20.8 seconds for the first hit + 18.2 seconds for the second hit + 2.7 seconds for the attack animation + 3 seconds to pick the survivor up + average 8 seconds to walk to a hook + 1.5 second hook animation = 54.2 seconds.

That is a full 54.2 seconds that a single survivor should last from start of chase. Now, this isn't factoring in killer powers or pallets or anything. And is definitely killer dependent. But you need to look at how long your chases last, and if you aren't lasting at a minimum of even 30 seconds you are probably doing something wrong. Sometimes your teammates just suck, that's just how it works. Once you get to higher MMR, it will get better.

2. This is also going to be on you and your team. Camping and tunneling only works when you let it work. If the killer is camping, just do gens, you'll get 4-5 of them done before the person dies on hook (again factoring in that 54 seconds i mentioned from above). If they are tunneling, you can do things to make yourself more appetizing for the killer to go after, but again, stop trying to be altruistic and just do the gens.

3. Don't just blindly do gens, you need to be more strategic about which gens you complete. Early on, the killer is weaker, so off by going for the gens that are HARDER to do, for example. Don't do the shack gen, that's one of the safest areas in the game. Instead, go do the gen in the middle of the corn field with nothing around it. Because that one is going to be the most difficult to get done, so get it out of the way while the killer has to patrol more gens.

4. When i play "off meta" people still often rage and DC, so this isn't really helpful most of the time.

I think it's pretty clear OP has no desire to learn anything and simply wants to argue.

The old 'Everyone that disagrees with me is X side' bit.

Generally happens when there is no substance.

Of course.

There are no different experiences.

Just whatever main bad/wrong.

I have a good time as killer and as solo survivor.

My main build is pretty terrible, I am told, too.

Some people have a bad time in either role, bad games, etc.

Histrionics don't accomplish anything.

I love seeing all the complaints about MFT. It's funny that you complain about MFT but never talk about you getting bloodlust. I could understand if it was a 10/15% speed boost but it's 3%. You literally gain another 5% speed as a 115 after 15 seconds making you a 120 and it's only up another 10% from there once you're at BL3. The issue with a lot of killers complaining about MFT is they don't play survivor enough. If you learn to loop and have the survivor mindset you also learn to mindgame loops and catch them off.

My bad - I thought OP said that the only people disagreeing and saying they could have a good time as solo survivor are people not actually playing survivor / are killer mains.