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If You Could Change One Aspect Of The Game, What Would It Be?

Iron_Cutlass
Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,266
edited August 2023 in General Discussions

Title. If you could change on aspect of the game, what would it be?

It can be literally anything you want, for better or worse; also dont worry about how the community will receive the change, since whatever you say will go through regardless of community reception, as per this being a hypothetical scenario.

Also by one thing, I mean one thing. Dont put a long list of things you would want. If you want to remove a set of maps; pick a map or realm, not multiple things. If you want to buff a set of perks; pick a single perk. Etc.

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  • SirCracken
    SirCracken Member Posts: 1,414

    In leu of being able to fix them, I'd remove RPD, The Game, Midwitch, Decimated Borgo, & Garden of Joy from the map pools.

    They're all horrible maps for various reasons. And the quality of each match will only be improved with them gone.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,266

    Since I mentioned it being one aspect, do you have a specific one that you would prefer removing?

  • SirCracken
    SirCracken Member Posts: 1,414

    RPD. Easily the single worst map ever concieved in DbD.

    Playing Billy, Huntress, or Deathslinger? Your power is rendered all but none-functional because of all the walls and tight corners.

    Playing any killer that relies on basic attacks? You're at the mercy of the long corridors and plentiful god pallets.

    Playing a killer that's good at map control? Your only viable option is to lock down a 3-gen and slow down the pace of the game to a crawl.

    It's the only map that I never have fun no matter what role I'm playing, or if I win or lose. RPD is a fun vacuum. And it's ######### baffling that the "Re-work" it received did absolutely nothing to fix it.

  • Smoe
    Smoe Member Posts: 2,932

    The chase music for Wesker and Legion, i'd change them to actually sound like proper chase music.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    Change? Its easier to add or remove something. Change, I dont know what to change.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,266

    You can add/remove things as well, I consider that to be apart of change.

    I dont want to be too limiting, but the only condition is that it has to be one thing, not a laundry list of stuff.

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,709

    I'll remove map offerings.

  • totallynotamegmain
    totallynotamegmain Member Posts: 658

    Undo billy nerf

  • totallynotamegmain
    totallynotamegmain Member Posts: 658

    Same thing as the bad ham rework. “Ok team here’s how we’re going to rework it, I’m going to change nothing and duplicate the map 5 fking times”

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    Doesnt mean the chance you get the map is 5 times, the chance rate to get into Badham map is only 3 for each variation. Macmillan, AutoHeaven, Coldwind has the chance rate of 8 or 10. While realms with less variation has chance of 12 (iirc)

    I prefer to have multiple variation than a single Badham with the chance rate of 12. If anything, I would like there are variations for Saloon and drop the chance.

  • H2H
    H2H Member Posts: 753

    Massively reduce map sizes and pallet counts.

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,549

    I can't think of one thing specifically... cause there's a lot

    But... Making Status Effects also affect skillchecks was something I have thought of but I didn't get much feedback (probably cause I didn't explain much fully) also due to other changes made to some of the status effects would make my idea a moot point

    If they did make this a thing then it would make skillchecks both interesting and annoying (LOL)

    If not that then probably reverting the healing nerfs (or at least some of them)

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,695

    Matchmaking

  • 00berdisc
    00berdisc Member Posts: 96
    edited August 2023

    Insta Ban tunneling and camping, stupid GGEz strategies , im tired

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    Perks should be side grades not the upgrades we have right now. the most user friendly build should be a perkless one

    I know that would never happen because it would mean EVERYONE would have to relearn their perk building process (except me because i just slap teachable with a perk that synergies)

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,967

    Some sort of map balance/standardization. Like in terms of size and number of pallets, for starters.

    It's kind of unacceptable for your experience as a player (especially as killer) to vary so wildly depending on the map you load into. I don't think an asym like this is balanceable, but this would be by far the biggest single step in that direction, imo.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    150ms ping limit

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445
    edited August 2023

    There's so much that its hard to pick.

    But I think I have one. Every killer that's been given a rework is given a brown addon that reverts them to pre rework status. That includes but is not limited to Freddy, Doctor, and Trickster.

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,854

    Why Trickster?

    Freddy I understand, and Doctor was at least mechanically different so there'd be some novelty in going back, but Trickster was only ever directly buffed. There wasn't a rework to go back to, you'd just be playing a numerically worse version of the killer you selected.

  • awustzdn
    awustzdn Member Posts: 320

    I'd change the grind. Perk tiers should be eliminated, purchased DLC should immediately have their perks available to all characters, and the universal perks should be always permanently unlocked. Shrine of Secrets-purchased perks likewise should be instantly available to all characters.

  • pizzavessel15
    pizzavessel15 Member Posts: 534

    personally gens. i wish there were more objectives to escape. that or totems since totems aren't impactful by themselves.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,327

    Realistically? Remove all information from the lobby besides the picked survivor and the item they're holding. Names, especially profile access, prestige level, get it out of here.

  • Snowball777
    Snowball777 Member Posts: 143

    I would reward Killers for spreading out hooks with buffs, such as gen regression or temporary movement speed.

  • Evan_
    Evan_ Member Posts: 547

    I'd allow survivors to teabag in the lobby.

    I can't imagine how they missed such a crucial feature for 7 years.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,266

    Ngl, I would love this, but what about lobbies where people get put into out-of-region and/or laggy servers?

    I think BHVR would have to fix their servers and matchmaking first, which I hope they realistically do soon since it's been really bad lately.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445
    edited August 2023

    Release Trickster vs Current Trickster is not nearly as cut and dried as that.

    1. Release Trickster could be packing 70 knives for the low price of a brown. That means that Release Trickster was both more forgiving and more flexible than current. Release Trickster could actually use his knives for zoning without needing to worry about running out half way through a chase.
    2. Release Trickster's laceration stacks lasted longer. That means that if you did manage to land a knife or two while zoning or looping around a tall wall structure, it'd be a lot more possible to capitalize on those hits. Again... making him more flexible than current. Especially on indoor maps where Huntress struggles.
    3. Release Trickster's Terror Radius was 24m and he had a 24-32m lullaby. This had an odd but fantastic side effect of Trickster being able to use Monitor and Abuse to create an 8m doughnut of silence between the two, making him far more stealthy than Huntress could ever be. And seeing as he didn't get a health state until he got 8 knives into somebody, I didn't have a problem with that despite him having range.

    For losing all that, he now needs one less knife to injure/down. Which is a very very powerful buff... but in my opinion, was not worth it.

    So... in short, they took a killer who was exceptional in the open or at short loops but struggled some on tall ones and made him even worse at tall loops and even more oppressive at short ones. Which makes literally zero sense to me.

    To be honest, half the reason I played release Trickster over Huntress was because loading onto Lerys, the Game, or Hawkins when that still existed, didn't make me want to instantly give up like those maps did on Huntress. But... his mini rework broke that so now I touch neither. Which is pretty sad, because I enjoyed him so much that he was either the first or second killer I P3'd under the old system and actually played enough to get to old Iri 1.

  • Hex_Maidenless
    Hex_Maidenless Member Posts: 112

    It's ridiculous and, in my opinion, an obvious major design flaw that there is no motivation whatsoever to actually run your chosen character's perks.

    If I built a new game in the DBD style from the ground up, the first two perk slots would be locked to picking from your character's options.

    I tend to play like this anyway.

  • Hex_Maidenless
    Hex_Maidenless Member Posts: 112

    lol just say you know nothing about how the internet works

  • Hex_Maidenless
    Hex_Maidenless Member Posts: 112

    I seem to remember around 6th anniversary somewhere there was a player survey and some of it definitely focussed on the possiblity of alternate game modes, but to this point nothing has come of it.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    I'm very well aware how the internet works and there are different solution how to provide an appropriate ping to all players, even if there is no AWS location in the nearby region of the player, but since you start your sentence with "lol" i don't think you are ready to have a proper discussion on such a topic which you also substantiate by not giving the reason why you think this is not possible.

    I would also like to point out that 150 ms is the limit for various e-sport leagues for good reason. in the game valorant was a riot of players recently because some players had an average ping of 160ms.

  • Hex_Maidenless
    Hex_Maidenless Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2023

    If you're seriously comparing DBD to esports there's no reason trying to have anything resembling a serious conversation with you. I salute you for making your profile private so people can't even block you though.

    If you're going to seriously argue "no one who lives outside of a major city with fiber internet should be allowed to play in my casual games" then "you don't understand how the internet works" is honestly the most polite thing I could have possibly said to you and all the other options for why you'd want that go downhill from there. Take the L and move on.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 5,890

    Yasssssssss and no lobbies eliminates that last second swapping bs survs can do

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    I didn't compare DBD with esports in any line. I only gave you a reference for the ping limit of 150ms. Since you don't understand this, hopefully on purpose, this further supports my thesis that you are incapable of having a meaningful discussion. Also I'm not sure what you mean by "Take the L and move on". We don't have a fight here, we have a discussion, which I would like to lead with arguments, while you constantly want to drag it on a personal level. the goal is to make the game better for everyone, not lock anyone out.

    You're putting words in my mouth that I haven't spoken. but in much of the civilized world, where the internet structure has been updated at least once in the last 20 years, it should be able to provide a ping of 150ms within the same country. maybe you can give me an example in which country such problems occur and we can talk about why this is so.

    As an example i would like to mention the player community from south africa. these players currently have to play on a server in europe. more precisely in frankfurt germany. that is about 9000 km (5600 miles) as the crow flies from south africa. due to the laws of physics alone, these players already have a ping disadvantage of 100ms. most of the players from south africa play with about 180 to 200 ms ping. which in itself is fascinating how a player from another content from a developing country can have such a low ping although the signal literally has to go halfway around the world. the easiest way to get under my suggested ping limit of 150 ms would be to give the players from south africa their own server. which is technically easy because there is an aws location in cape town south africa. let's assume that there would be no aws location. then it would still be possible to fall back to a server mediated p2p connection in order to keep the transmission paths, and thus the ping short.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,951

    I'd like to draw your attention to the following post I started in Sept 2018:

    I've been beating this drum for a really long time. While I'm hopeful it will happen at some point, I'll believe it when I see it.

  • Boons123
    Boons123 Member Posts: 859

    stunned pallet 4s

  • Hexonthebeach
    Hexonthebeach Member Posts: 461

    Hmm, looks like the thread turned from change an aspect to remove anything.

    I would like an option for each Killer to mute or change the chase music but keeping the heartbeat.

  • Mew
    Mew Member Posts: 1,832

    id change the current customization options

    make it so ur able to mix and match undershirts, shoes, backblings, accessories, etc. also being able to toggle certain aspects on/off (like makeup or dirt/blood)