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I’m Jc, little mad. But how is tier 3 Michel myers infinite fare to the survivors?
I just want to hear how this is even slightly fare? Or what your even supposed to do agents this build? Cause I’m at a lose for how to even deal with that?!? But let’s nerf more survivor perks right? Let nerf stuff that only gives you like a 4 percent boost to thing for survivors, but let buff all the killers? I’m so sad to see how this game has gone from being balanced to just nothing you can do agents a killer with the right perks and addons. There is literally nothing you can do? It’s just really sad an amazing game turned so toxic agents the survivors. Like I get it’s not supposed to be a cake walk but half the games are just way to hard especially when I don’t dump irl cash to get the dlc perks, so I’m stuck playing agent player with the best perks and I have no way to even slightly stall or counter. Ty for listening to me rant a bit. Over all I just want to know how to deal with gameplay like that, I remember the old Dbd where things were mostly balanced on both sides some broken things on both as well, but now the most broken thing for survivors is a 3% haste MFT?
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Its not really meant to be. Myers and basically anything about him was made during an era of the game where balance was one of the last things on their mind.
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It’s sad that such a great game has taken a huge fall into the madness of catering to the people who complain about the survivors are to op when all we get are a few lousy perks for free to play. I would almost say that the devs are worse the COD devs. Like what happened to gaming in general? When did it become oh something it balanced just right, it op devs you need to fix this it only one thing that actually balances out what the killer can do, god forbid we can’t have fairness. It’s running the experience I’m not getting All 4 survivors ever game now I’m only getting 3 every game oh no🤣 like it’s just sad to the point I rather break my leg and run a marathon. 🤣 idk I just think most killer perks need to be reworked or slightly nerfed. But ik that’s a hot take and I’m wrong for thinking that. God forbid people have there own opinions nowadays
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Or a slight buff to the original non dlc perks so free to play players have a slightly better chance to have better games,
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it's balanced by it being michael. and how awful it is to gain enough stalk for it.
seriously.
the tombstone piece is the actually broken add-on. infinite tier 3 is weirdly fine
adrenaline, sprint burst and resilience are literally some of the best perks in the game. sprint burst being the best exhaustion perk and it's not close.
prove thyself is amazing. bond and empathy are really good team aura perks.
kindred is also amazing.
edit- forgot. quick and quiet is very underrated
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Given how much safety survivors have access to now, Infinite Tier 3 is hardly that much of a problem.
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Most articulate DBD player
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That’s what I meant the add on not the killer, and I’m going to have to unlock some of them.
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Sure, but to be fair you need to have a really clueless bunch of survivors to actually reach tier 3 before you're at like... 2 gens, and that's being generous. I don't think it's particularly unfair, especially considering how strong fast vaults are right now and the amount of fairly to insanely safe pallets found in most maps.
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And see like sprint burst I think is super over rated cause then you have to walk like the whole game, unless you being chased, I like using lithe instead cause then I can get to gens faster to do them,
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And adrenaline I think is a waste of a perk slot cause more then half the game never get all then gens done so i find it to be just a wasted perk slot
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Cause it never pops
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For resilience I didn’t know that was in the game just found it I have it maxed so I’m going to try it out,
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What do you mean I’m curious?
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Fair enough now I get what your saying, and ik this is just some of the matches but my teammates were all just crowding myers and then last three gens were all where the killer was getting looped and I tried to pull him away so gens could get done, but we had a bit and no one was doing gens. Some game are just like that tho. I was more shocked that the add on gave him tier 3 for the whole time that must have been a new thing added or buffed since I lasted played.
i was like🤔 what’s going on here,,,, breakfast yk 🤣🤣 it just not know what was going on like why is he still in tier 3.
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Seriously? Hold W as soon as you hear the massive terror radius and pre-drop pallets when he reaches you and your totally fine.
But of course your teammates better be on gens which is hard to ask for some reason still.
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For sure ever killer got different counters for them, and yeah I’m shocked that now days people aren’t on gens as much like either all gens get done quick or 15 mins go by with one gen done, and some matches are like that but seems to be no in between. maybe I haven’t gotten high enough in rank to see that stuff get batter about to enter gold,
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And ty guys/girls who have read this and are trying to help me under stand what to do and better builds, instead of just being like I’m bad or learn how it play. I really appreciate. All of the help and letting me rant at first
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I think someone once did the math on what it takes to hit the infinite tier 3 with Myers. Essentially you have to drain evil from 3.5 survivors. So you have to sit there and let him stalk you long enough to get to the point where you glow red and have no more evil to give. And then 2 other people have to do this.
It really isn't that hard to avoid, it just means you can't sit endlessly on gens w/o looking around. Have to be smart, have to break LoS, it takes a little more thinking. Unfortunely in random cues, he usually hits it early as people just sit on a gen and let him power up.
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Infinite Tier 3 isn't even Michael's most unbalanced add on. Tombstone Myers is far worse imho. Iridescent add ons are supposed to be pushed. They are also really rare so you won't see killers using them too often. Just like a bunch of survivors with brand new parts aren't all that balanced. None of this even begins to address how unbalanced things used to be. Mori's used to be able to be done after the first hook for example.
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Did you get destroyed by a tuft of hair myers?
Little advice....
1) he takes very long to get there. Myers has a horrible early game. Rush him and he will have a hard time (soloq can be pain here)
2) you can stay injured. You know he's downing you anyway, therefore you can just stay injured and use one of the strongest builds right now. Resilience with made for this and something like windows of opportunity or adrenaline. Myers has no map transversal. Therefore you can do gens fast and he can't do anything about it because he has to walk up to you.
3) When he starts camping you, yes. There will be no unhook. But if this happens, you failed at 1 or 2. Then you need to accept that you will be sacrificed. You team needs to rush the last gens and get out.
4) Myers is an m1 killer. In Tier 3 he has a stronger lunge and a faster vault. That's it. If you have made for this, run straight to every pallet and pre drop. You will see that your chases will be much longer if played right.
5) His addons and Michael himself have been in this sad state for a very long time. This hasnt changed.
6) be happy that he has tuft of hair and not tombstone piece + j myers memorial
7) win the match.
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Becuase if they don’t run that or scratched mirror myers has no chance of a victory. He is one of the most unbalanced killers in this game.
yet there is “no plans for changes.” They really are “doing pretty well so far”
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I just want to add this little clip to the myers discussion
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bear with me and. Consider the following
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Yes, but cases like this are the exception rather than the rule.
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Lovely
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Its fair, because by the time Myers reaches tier 3, the gates should be powered. Unless your team feeds him.
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It doesn't take that long to reach T3 with just Tuft of Hair. Tuft of Hair requires you to fully stalk 2 survivors worth of evil.
Plus Myers has access to perks like Corrupt and Deadlock to stall out gen progress. You'll likely lose early gens as Myers, but it won't be all 5.
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ok... imagine vegeta is me as the other survivor
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Good points. Its just, that i see these threads and most of the time someone was feeding Myers during the match. Myers Terror radius is massive on tier 3. More than enough time to hide in a locker or simply run.
He has his problems. Just like he can get infinite tier 3, he can also run out of evil within to draw. Its just one of those Billy situations, where i don´t want Myers to be changed and turned into... meh. Because he already isn´t a A-tier killer.
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You can do two thing against infinite myers
If it's just infinite, it's the hard way, trying to block him and looping him the longest possible
If it's the tombstone, remember, all survivor are just some "juicy bottle of juice"
It requiert for myers to "drink" all the juice from three survivor for gaining the tier three, so if you manage to hide somewhere with an another survivor, he can't never pass the phase three
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Against any Myers a good rule of thumb is to try and find a tall structure he can't stalk you over. Just run circles around it until he either gives up, hits t2, or the gens get done. In T1 you can keep him at a tall loop, with or without a pallet, for a while. That is if the player doesn't know it's better to leave and find someone else.
Infinite T3 is a lot stronger than it's given credit for. With a stalking speed addon it doesn't take long to hit it. Tombstone piece sucks because it's kind of a one opportunity thing. At least it has the downside of making Myers slower. Where as infinite T3 is sped up vaults, insta down, normal movement speed, and is very strong with chase perks.
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Very unfair for killers to have anything strong or good
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Infinite Tier 3 is manageable by experienced players. Tombstone is ridiculous though and shouldn't be a thing
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Tombstone is pretty busted, though I love it as a Halloween fan. It’d be fair to rework it but I’d be sad to see it go completely. Even if I’m the one getting tombstoned most of the time.
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I always learn something from more experieneced players whenever I discuss Myers balance.
As others have said, suprisingly perma tier 3 Myers is fine... Even perma tier 3 execute Myers is fine considering how long it takes to actually build up to tier 3... though it is basically dependent on survivors messing up and spending time doing stuff they shouldn't be doing to get any value, and it is completely unengaging on both sides. I wouldn't be upset if the execute gameplay was removed from add-ons completely, but it is pretty lore accurate so the Judith Tomestone variant can probably stay...
Now Tombstone Piece is straight broken and needs to have it's execute completely removed. I dunno what to rework it to, but this definitely needs to go.
My current stance on balancing Myers is to have the EW3 execute added basekit for survivors dead on hook, and can be used standing, injured or dying. This would make Evil Incarnate something you can go for on any Myers build, and still keeps Michael unique as the only stnading execute in the game.
This keeps Evil Incarnate as a doable achievement/trophy without backwards compatability issues cropping up, and also frees up the potential of buffing Myers now the Tombstone Piece isn't breaking the game... if he needs buffs that is... Myers really benefits from the fact his power synergises really well with certain perks.
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Survivors are guarantee losing if 1 dies with 2 Gens left. Result survivors have to rush Gen every match or they lose.
Play against Myer has the same problem. Either rush Gen, or risk 1 getting moried early and the match ends right there.
And its year 8, it isn’t healthy for the game to keep being like this.
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I agree that the Tombstones add-ons are unhealthy for the game. The fact that they weren't removed years ago is laughable.
Myers overall feels like the forgotten step-child. His kit very much reflects how different the game was when he was released.
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Micheal Myers is literally slow as like a mf on infinite tier 3 💀💀 you’d have to run an ultimate speed build on him to become OP even wit tht ppl still manage to escape it. Just play better my guy
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It takes Myers a lot of time to tier up using those addons unless an extremely unaware teammate lets them stare at him. You should be able to get two-three gens done before he can tier up so that you only deal with the exposed status for the late game.
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This made me laugh. You say all this about your team but proceed to come to the forums to complain about an add-on for Myers knowing damn well your team would have died against any killer playing the way they were.
Also don't even get me started on all your "agents" which took some re-reading to figure out you just don't know how to spell "against".
Friendly advice? Majority of your deaths will always be your teams fault and have little to do with the killer outside of a few circumstances. Over 4000 hrs. logged into this game and I can count on one hand how many times I died because the killer/perks/add-ons it always boils down to your teammates in solo's.
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why you writing full on paragraphs / either way tho peepl usually just run it with tombstone so they nerf themselves
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