can I have an official word from bhvr

The only answer that makes sense... BHVR HATES killers. It's a necessary evil for them. We don't buy 50 outfits and make them money so they don't care. Killer bots will pop up more so they won't need Killer mains and survivors can be happy with tbagging over easy wins because it makes them feel good.

If they cared about Killers A. They would play Killer B. They would do something about gen rushes and SWF being overpowered. If anything they would give us Shadowborn without having to add a perk to actually SEE!

Yes. But it's only end game. Again: that's why I try to win before that happens.

I main killer as well. I very rarely slug for the 4k. I think it's boring. However, the 4k is the best possible outcome for the killer and there is nothing wrong with someone wanting to gain the extra points.

I think the flaw is the hatch that enables this. Without it, the killer would not have to slug. I'm more for a "final chase". If the survivor gets chased long enough, they get the escape. That's better for me than an anti climatic : hey I found it before you, now I tbag you until you arrive / now I have to patrol gates until the survivor shows up.

Is it? I think it depends on the situation. When i play against people who play fair, i do not slug them. But lets face it. This community is toxic by nature. So most of the time you have survivors who t-bag you at every corner and pallet, do the clicky clicks, constant gesturing/taunting and only have one goal in mind, to annoy and upset the person who is playing the killer. Why should one have sympathy for these players? Do you think it is fine to stroke their egos by letting them escape or not slug? People need to learn how to be respectful. If a survivor team is playing without t-bags and clicky and gesturing, i will not slug. If they do, what happens then is literally the consequences of their actions.

And yes MFT is a broken perk that needs a change. I am very curious what bhvr will do. Maybe a nerf to 2,999% haste instead of 3%

Doesnt change the fact that OP did not want to build pressure, but tried to be sweaty and is now upset that it did not work out.

yes, i realized it after posting that comment. doesn't change much though, because they aren't trying to validate or justify the playstyle, they are just arguing the perks (in a combo and/or by themselves) aren't balanced.

dude I play both side just saying what I see..

I like Melinko idea.

my point still stands tho slugging for the 4k is just like 3 survivors ganging up on the killer trying to save the 4th off hook that after they 99% the exit gates so they can have 4 man out there no differents to that and slugging for the 4k both not fun for the other side.

but as long as survivors are able to do that when the killer has a really bad game then killer should be able to slug for the 4k when the survivors have a really bad game.

I believe those two situations are different when you consider the risk involved.

When 3 survivors try an endgame save, the killer has far better options to not only secure that 1k on the hook but also snowball into a 2k/3k. NOED exists, STBFL exists, instadown power/addons exists, even without them you can still manage to down and kill a survivor when they try to save. So those 3 survivors have to take a risk in going for a save.

Compare it to the "2survivors, +1gens" situations were most of the "slugging for the 4k" usually happen, there is no perk that can make those 2 survivors recover from that situation. Even if the 3rd survivor recovers with unbreakable, they can't repair their way out unless they massively outplay the killer. So there is no risk in slugging for the 4k, no chance of survivors 'snowballing' a 2E.

Rovend sidenote

what you said: Compare it to the "2survivors, +1gens" situations were most of the "slugging for the 4k" usually happen, there is no perk that can make those 2 survivors recover from that situation. Even if the 3rd survivor recovers with unbreakable, they can't repair their way out unless they massively outplay the killer. So there is no risk in slugging for the 4k, no chance of survivors 'snowballing' a 2E.

now Compare that to 3 healthy survivors try for the save and using perks that give them speed and endurance with 99% exit gate near and the hook survivor gets free speed and endurance and body block all the way to the exit gate

now what is the killer to do in this situation? lets say this one killer is with out an instadown power/addons

also NOED does not last long when survivors can see the aura of the totem,survivors normally will find it before making the save

killer would have to be lucky to hook them near the hex totem to get anything out of it normally if that happens all 3 survivors would leave.

what I'm saying is if there two survivors left you guys already lost but the killers wants a 4k and the hatch normally cheat killers out of it.also slugging does not always work unless you want to be a jerk and blood everyone out for less points.

now with the end game save if there are 3 healthy survivors one on hook killers going to want that 1k because it's the only thing left killer lost now if the 3 healthy survivors go for the save with all speed boosted and endurance and body blocking there good chance they all get out.

see

1K=hatch

end game save 3 healthy survivors=slugging for the 4k

both are risky and not fun

but why can survivors do it but killers can't?

there not much different between the two.

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I also feel that slugging all 4 survivors letting them blood out and not hooking is the same as survivors all staying at the exit gate t bagging waiting for the killer to come both are pointless.

I understand what you are saying that both situation aim for the best outcome in each side. Yet again, i still think it isnt fair to compare them both when you consider the risks.

I had hundreds upon hundreds of games were a killer camped one survivor in endgame and managed to get a 2k/3k, even a 4k. As i said before, a surprise NOED, STBFL, maybe a Blood Warden, using instadown addons and powers, hooking the survivor in a hill or the basement. Obviously, this isnt to say it's guaranteed you can always snowball into a +2k but there is a realistic chance you can pull it off.

Instead, i could count the amount of times 2 survivors managed to pull off an escape from a situation where the killer is slugging for the 4k while one gen remains with one hand.

This is meaningless for the disgussion. If he/hooked the survivor, the other would have easly outrun him/her for the time the other is on hook and die. So basicly a free escape or a lose lose situtation.

It seems there's an experimental agenda to "bring back the golden age of DbD" by adding game-breaking perk combos for a set amount of time. Although it's received such poor reception, I'm not sure why the project leads continue to plow onward with the idea anyway 🛑