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Why killers are still so salty about sabotage?
Just had a match in which I wanted to do my daily that required me to sabotage 2 hooks. After less than one minute the Huntress downs a Dwight while I finish to sabo my first hook in the vicinity. Then she proceed to camp hard the poor guy after having absolutely no problem in finding another hook, all this with 5 gens remaining. By the time he died we manage to repair 2.5 gens, she then downs someone else and camps even them. The two of us remaining gen rush like crazy and leave while she was throwing hatchets from the hook on the other side of the map to the exit gate we opened (she definetly knew we weren't near the hook and still didn't move away).
Game ended with her having 6k bp, while we escaped with 10k, and I find out she even had Devour Hope and when I make her notice how boring it was, the answer was "sabo=camp".
I mean... really? I just sabotaged a hook for a goddamn daily and we all had a horrible and useless match just for that? And this is not the first time it happened, as soon as they see someone sabotage hooks (even in a "non-toxic" way) killers seems to take a mission to make the game miserable for everyone.
I always see people complaining about survivors not doing side objectives, they need other things to do besides repairing gens, that gen rush is a problem etc... then when one does other than repairing gens with little to no harm to the killer this happens. No wonder why survivors prefer to focus on gens and ignore other parts of the game.
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if you think they get angry about hook sabo... get caught saboing a trappers trap. lol.12
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Meh, if someone is sabo'ing hooks with me as killer I just assume they are going for a daily. I always hate getting that daily as survivor as I know I'm probably going to get tunneled and camped so I try to let it go.
I'd rather they sabo the entire hook then 99% and drop it in my face.
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Because everything survivors do is toxic and trolling and deserves to be punished. They never do stuff for points, rank, or just because that's what you are SUPPOSED to do in the game.
I would sabo'd every single hook on the map before I left.
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I don't care as long as you are not trying to break my hook as i am carrying your teammate to it. If you do I'm gonna feel a certain way about you.
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Sabotaging is very balanced. What are the chances an entire team is sabotaging hooks? Unlikely.
I mean it sucks... and I'll usually tunnel someone if i see it, but it isn't a problem.
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I only sabo if I have that as a daily or I am about to prestige and am down to just using brown toolbox/offerings. the reason is the brown toolbox has a smaller skill check area, by the time i miss a skill check or 2 i find i could do it faster without the toolbox. but i do admit it is fun to watch.1
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Why are survivors so salty about camping, tunnelling, bloodlust etc etc etc
People like to complain
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I never camped anyone who saboed my hooks (not even the 99% trick) the only people who i camp and tunnel are the ones who tbag, bm, pallet loop and blind when picking up
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Sabo doesn't really bother me, however the only Sabo user I've faced in recent times was someone who tbags at every chance they get... so surely that guy thought it was toxic also?
Idk lol, I guess it's still seen as toxic by a decent amount of people.
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@fcc2014 said:
I don't care as long as you are not trying to break my hook as i am carrying your teammate to it. If you do I'm gonna feel a certain way about you.Exactly, add a few t-bags in there...yah you've got my attention full time
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@JusticeZERO said:
@fcc2014 said:
I don't care as long as you are not trying to break my hook as i am carrying your teammate to it. If you do I'm gonna feel a certain way about you.Exactly, add a few t-bags in there...yah you've got my attention full time
I don't care about t-bagging. If you flashlight me when i'm picking someone up or break my hooks you have my attention.
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@fcc2014 said:
@JusticeZERO said:
@fcc2014 said:
I don't care as long as you are not trying to break my hook as i am carrying your teammate to it. If you do I'm gonna feel a certain way about you.Exactly, add a few t-bags in there...yah you've got my attention full time
I don't care about t-bagging. If you flashlight me when i'm picking someone up or break my hooks you have my attention.
Flashlights it all depends on how the match is going, normally I feel bad with myself for getting flashlight-ed when I should KNOW better (Look at a wall, attempt a fake pick up to get them in close to get a hit in) but yeah some games that will get my attention, more so tunnel focus and less camping. I really just want you out of the game but I don't like camping because its boring af
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not me. saboing hooks, flashlight saves, body blocking are part of the game.. you start tbagging and i will tunnel you into next week. that said, in the absence of tbaggers, i will focus on flashlight saviours.fcc2014 said:@JusticeZERO said:
@fcc2014 said:
I don't care as long as you are not trying to break my hook as i am carrying your teammate to it. If you do I'm gonna feel a certain way about you.Exactly, add a few t-bags in there...yah you've got my attention full time
I don't care about t-bagging. If you flashlight me when i'm picking someone up or break my hooks you have my attention.
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@Russ76 i think all have are own "made up ethics and rules" Those two i mentioned are mine. I don't mind being body blocked or trying to pallet save and up until the Howling Grounds event hook sabotage didn't bother me. It was having the special hooks broke that changed that.
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@fcc2014 said:
i think all have are own "made up ethics and rules" Those two i mentioned are mine. I don't mind being body blocked or trying to pallet save and up until the Howling Grounds event hook sabotage didn't bother me. It was having the special hooks broke that changed that.The ability to sabo special hooks in the howling grounds event made me so damn sad especially when I was leaving event generators alone during the event but like you said, these are our own made up ethics/rules/killers code.
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fcc2014 said:
@Russ76 i think all have are own "made up ethics and rules" Those two i mentioned are mine. I don't mind being body blocked or trying to pallet save and up until the Howling Grounds event hook sabotage didn't bother me. It was having the special hooks broke that changed that.
i can see that. i didn't get the game till just before Christmas and when howling grounds came out i was still learning the game. my biggest problem came from, no matter how many survivors i downed i was always as farm from the special hook as i could get. there were times i downed the same survivor 3 times just to get him to that 1 special hookJusticeZERO said:@fcc2014 said:
i think all have are own "made up ethics and rules" Those two i mentioned are mine. I don't mind being body blocked or trying to pallet save and up until the Howling Grounds event hook sabotage didn't bother me. It was having the special hooks broke that changed that.The ability to sabo special hooks in the howling grounds event made me so damn sad especially when I was leaving event generators alone during the event but like you said, these are our own made up ethics/rules/killers code.
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Yeah, they do get pretty salty about it. It's weird, since they just come back immediately?
Though, I will say, I did the 99% & dropping it in someone's face trick for the first time ever in a match yesterday, and the guy downed me like a fraction of a second after I did it & hooked me, which I was totally fine with. I was like, yeah, I deserved that.
I was surprised that he disconnected when I got unhooked instead of tunneling/camping me, as that seemed more logical & I would have understood it at that point. Guess he made his point either way, though.
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Exactly
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Oh boy let me tell you I was going for adept Freddy and they were 99 the hooks so what did I do? I slugged them because what else am I supposed to do drag them from one half of the map to the basement when they wiggle free? Nah1
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I've been getting the same dailies pretty much consistently lately including the sabo one. I'm always trying to do the ones closest to me so incase killer comes towards me when doing so he can't hook me. But last night I had a billy on Red Forest just running back and forth and I was on 2nd hook since no gens were anywhere near my section of map. He rage quit when 2nd hook was almost done.
We'd gotten 1 gen done, 2 totems cleansed and that was it. As a Trapper main sabo is annoying as heck since on some maps there's just not many traps around to begin with. It also takes 2 seconds to sabo them it seems.
I think the sabotage should work like totem cleansing, you either finish it or it resets to zero if you stop.
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I had one game against the clown where a Jake sabotaged a hook as soon as he carried me over to it. He then dropped me, followed me as I crawled away, and took me to a hook close by to where I crawled. After that, he camped and hit me over and over again. I totally understand his frustration, I would've been mad too! However, I feel that his anger clouded his better judgement, considering I was not the one running around dropping hooks. He apologized in the end game chat, and was actually a pretty cool guy but a normal game took a huge turn as soon as Jake decided to sabotage. Sure, it can be useful from time to time, but it's often not worth it because of the reaction it creates.
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@White_Owl said:
Just had a match in which I wanted to do my daily that required me to sabotage 2 hooks. After less than one minute the Huntress downs a Dwight while I finish to sabo my first hook in the vicinity. Then she proceed to camp hard the poor guy after having absolutely no problem in finding another hook, all this with 5 gens remaining. By the time he died we manage to repair 2.5 gens, she then downs someone else and camps even them. The two of us remaining gen rush like crazy and leave while she was throwing hatchets from the hook on the other side of the map to the exit gate we opened (she definetly knew we weren't near the hook and still didn't move away).
Game ended with her having 6k bp, while we escaped with 10k, and I find out she even had Devour Hope and when I make her notice how boring it was, the answer was "sabo=camp".
I mean... really? I just sabotaged a hook for a goddamn daily and we all had a horrible and useless match just for that? And this is not the first time it happened, as soon as they see someone sabotage hooks (even in a "non-toxic" way) killers seems to take a mission to make the game miserable for everyone.
I always see people complaining about survivors not doing side objectives, they need other things to do besides repairing gens, that gen rush is a problem etc... then when one does other than repairing gens with little to no harm to the killer this happens. No wonder why survivors prefer to focus on gens and ignore other parts of the game.Why?
I suggest you play killer yourself. A chase can actually take ages and if you manage to finally down him it is a really bad feeling if your acomplishment gets taken away by a DS or a hook sabotage.I will camp ur ass if you sabotage in front of me, if you sabotage a random hook on the other side of the map, I dont give a damn though
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Haha sabotaging hooks to 99 and then dropping them as the killer is about to hook is one of my pastimes. Especially when they have had to put up a really good chase to get the down. I deserve the camp when caught.
I know I have my own things I do as a killer too.
If someone doesn’t ready up before the timer readys us them up, i’ll ignore every survivor till I find them and tunnel them all game and they get proxy camped and tunnelled again, if your not ready to play keep out the lobby haha
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@Master said:
@White_Owl said:
Just had a match in which I wanted to do my daily that required me to sabotage 2 hooks. After less than one minute the Huntress downs a Dwight while I finish to sabo my first hook in the vicinity. Then she proceed to camp hard the poor guy after having absolutely no problem in finding another hook, all this with 5 gens remaining. By the time he died we manage to repair 2.5 gens, she then downs someone else and camps even them. The two of us remaining gen rush like crazy and leave while she was throwing hatchets from the hook on the other side of the map to the exit gate we opened (she definetly knew we weren't near the hook and still didn't move away).
Game ended with her having 6k bp, while we escaped with 10k, and I find out she even had Devour Hope and when I make her notice how boring it was, the answer was "sabo=camp".
I mean... really? I just sabotaged a hook for a goddamn daily and we all had a horrible and useless match just for that? And this is not the first time it happened, as soon as they see someone sabotage hooks (even in a "non-toxic" way) killers seems to take a mission to make the game miserable for everyone.
I always see people complaining about survivors not doing side objectives, they need other things to do besides repairing gens, that gen rush is a problem etc... then when one does other than repairing gens with little to no harm to the killer this happens. No wonder why survivors prefer to focus on gens and ignore other parts of the game.Why?
I suggest you play killer yourself. A chase can actually take ages and if you manage to finally down him it is a really bad feeling if your acomplishment gets taken away by a DS or a hook sabotage.I will camp ur ass if you sabotage in front of me, if you sabotage a random hook on the other side of the map, I dont give a damn though
Did you just assume I don't play killer with no evidence whatsoever?
I perfectly know what it's like from the other side and I still remember when sabo was meta. Now if it happens to me I don't get childishly salty, because I know it requires effort and dedication, way more than hitting a skillcheck or pointing a flashlight.
If the whole swf squad is doing it, that's a reason to get triggered, but that happens like once every 500 games. If it's just one lone survivor well, it's one less person on gens and you can just trick him to go to a hook and then go to another one.
Also, let's stop pretending that fully sabotaging a hook in a remote part of the map is useful. 99ing them is currently the only way to make sabo really have an effect.0 -
Sabotage doesn't really bother me. It can be a pain if it's the one hook within a reasonable distance but it's there as a tactic for survivors to save teammates. Only time it winds me up is if two or three hooks in a row are dropped as Im approaching them but oh well0
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@White_Owl said:
@Master said:
@White_Owl said:
Just had a match in which I wanted to do my daily that required me to sabotage 2 hooks. After less than one minute the Huntress downs a Dwight while I finish to sabo my first hook in the vicinity. Then she proceed to camp hard the poor guy after having absolutely no problem in finding another hook, all this with 5 gens remaining. By the time he died we manage to repair 2.5 gens, she then downs someone else and camps even them. The two of us remaining gen rush like crazy and leave while she was throwing hatchets from the hook on the other side of the map to the exit gate we opened (she definetly knew we weren't near the hook and still didn't move away).
Game ended with her having 6k bp, while we escaped with 10k, and I find out she even had Devour Hope and when I make her notice how boring it was, the answer was "sabo=camp".
I mean... really? I just sabotaged a hook for a goddamn daily and we all had a horrible and useless match just for that? And this is not the first time it happened, as soon as they see someone sabotage hooks (even in a "non-toxic" way) killers seems to take a mission to make the game miserable for everyone.
I always see people complaining about survivors not doing side objectives, they need other things to do besides repairing gens, that gen rush is a problem etc... then when one does other than repairing gens with little to no harm to the killer this happens. No wonder why survivors prefer to focus on gens and ignore other parts of the game.Why?
I suggest you play killer yourself. A chase can actually take ages and if you manage to finally down him it is a really bad feeling if your acomplishment gets taken away by a DS or a hook sabotage.I will camp ur ass if you sabotage in front of me, if you sabotage a random hook on the other side of the map, I dont give a damn though
Did you just assume I don't play killer with no evidence whatsoever?
I perfectly know what it's like from the other side and I still remember when sabo was meta. Now if it happens to me I don't get childishly salty, because I know it requires effort and dedication, way more than hitting a skillcheck or pointing a flashlight.
If the whole swf squad is doing it, that's a reason to get triggered, but that happens like once every 500 games. If it's just one lone survivor well, it's one less person on gens and you can just trick him to go to a hook and then go to another one.
Also, let's stop pretending that fully sabotaging a hook in a remote part of the map is useful. 99ing them is currently the only way to make sabo really have an effect.As I said, when you sabotage a hook on the other side of the map, I dont care.
However, if you sabotage a hook in front of me and deny my deserved hook, then you will regret0 -
I only camp/tunnel people that loop 1 group of boxes ect....don't really care about sabo hooks.0
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It’s on my list of things I’ll make you pay for if I catch you doing it.0
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I just give em a nice hit on the hook if they sabotaged a hook in the game. It’s annoying but I assume that they’re going for a daily so all good haha
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@Might_Oakk said:
Why are survivors so salty about camping, tunnelling, bloodlust etc etc etcPeople like to complain
Why are killers so salty about Desicive Strike, looping, and t-bagging? Because some of them make your LIFE COMPLETE ASS for a match, and the others are considered bad manners by a bunch of people who think they’re the law.
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I always laugh IRL when someone drops a hook in front of me. It's a pretty good play, and I can appreciate that. Depending on where the next hook is, I may drop the Survivor I'm carrying and chase after the saboteur though. Had a few matches where they did this to me and we had a good laugh about it in the post-game chat. Just don't get salty about it. It's all part of the game.
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@Mringasa said:
I always laugh IRL when someone drops a hook in front of me. It's a pretty good play, and I can appreciate that. Depending on where the next hook is, I may drop the Survivor I'm carrying and chase after the saboteur though. Had a few matches where they did this to me and we had a good laugh about it in the post-game chat. Just don't get salty about it. It's all part of the game.Being salty is part of the game btw
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Triggering sabo meta PTSD tends to set people off.0
