So... Is Skull Merchant still considered a hugely hated killer or am I allowed to enjoy playing as
After the constant complaints, I kinda forgot about this character and never even TRIED her. Saw a random video on her yesterday that made me wanna get her to P1 next and see how it goes and... it's actually kinda fun. Been just running cheap addons and my games have been pretty chill.
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Yeah people used to hate freddy and you were allowed to enjoy him
Own it
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If we were playing only Killers that Survivors allow, there would be allready AI Trappers almost every game.
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She's still 200% Scumdog. Play her with the biggest ######### eating grin on your face.
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Your allowed to enjoy anyone. Though yes, she's still kinda hated by a lot of ppl.
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Hated.
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I MAINED Freddy, lol. Got the cool red icon and everything.
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What exactly is hated? Is it still just the long games, cuz I barely ever feel the need to kick a gen with her.
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I've been collecting plenty of DCes for just chill games...
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It's how people play her. A LOT go for the 3 gen camp or tend to tunnel camp. Basically people play her the most hated ways they can. They gave her a REAL bad reputation.
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I've just been using Ruin, sloppy and 2 tracking perks. Games have been going fine so far. Sounds like you'd have to shoot yourself in the foot to make things obnoxious
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Enjoy it anyway.
Don't let other people's bad take on things ruin your fun.
(and by bad take I mean their inability to keep their complaints constructively aimed at the game mechanics and not at other players).
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People were never going to stop hating Skull Merchant, because she got changes. There was always going to be something else people were going to complain about unless they made her power literally useless.
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They kinda do. Doesn't stop people from trying though and it's still usually drawn out for little reason when they do though.
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Both
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You are allowed to play and enjoy her. Just as everyone else is allowed to hate her.
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That's kinda weird to me. I've had games where it goes the OTHER way in which I play TOO aggressive and have to pretend like I didn't see the last guy standing to let the team recover abit. With the changes, it feels like an aggressive style is the way she's suppose to be played since the drones only detect moving targets. You WANT survivors to constantly be running through your minefield. I feel like infectious and UW works well for that.
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Play who you want, how you want man/woman/thing. Why let others tell you how to play this game?
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I just want to avoid getting into games where ppl constantly DC or give up. I got ALOT of bots last night.
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Hated, idk for other people but I have 3 main reasons that just make them very annoying to face in general
- "stealth killer" 8s of undetectable for setting up a drone every 10s is fine but she just makes no sound and has no real penalty / cooldown for it compared to other killers especially with addons which can give 100% uptime, t1 mikey is a heavy breather, ghost face has a longer cooldown, can be broken out of stealth and has some decent sounds up close, pig moves extremely slow while in stealth and has to ambush or stand up both have sounds and a warning, wraith has a long uncloak and has loud gnawing sounds and the uncloak sound. Skull merchant, normal speed no real strategy needed no sound made its like they didn't even design it properly by their own standards. when ever killers with tangential stealth mechanics have overkill passive sounds like dredge making something a stealth killer because it has no sound design then never fixing it doesn't feel great
- lock on stacks only decrease upon being downed / hooked. Sitting on 1-2 stacks until you finally get chased to then get the 3rd stack by mistake for an instant injure and an easy down after not interacting with the killer for ~2 minutes just doesn't feel great. The fact that they don't passively decay
- Slowdown / Speed up, even after the lock on injuring you that isn't enough because now you can now be forced to move at 90% speed and the killer moves at 118% speed if you can't get out of a loop. Slowdown just doesn't feel good and you can't make it feel good because it feels like the game is taking control from you, id rather have the killer go even faster then feel like I'm moving slower because it just doesn't feel great.
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You're aloud to enjoy what killer you like. This is your game as much as everybody else's
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We can't dictate how they play mate. We only know what we've experienced as survivors.
We tend to play her as an ambush predator seems a lot more fun in our eyes.
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I just want to be able to play against PEOPLE and not bots constantly, lol.
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You can play whoever you want.
Personally, yes, I still hate her, just for different reasons than before and I don’t play her myself anymore because of how much I hate facing her now. I used to play the old chase Merchant with the purple addons (no 3-genning) which I actually had fun with on both sides since I felt like there was enough counterplay with drones overall not being as strong in chase. Now she’s so obnoxious in chase it’s not even satisfying for me to play her anymore so I dropped her. As survivor it just feels like you don’t have any options against her if the killer player is any good, perhaps unless you’re on a really strong survivor map. Half the time you leave the loop to avoid a drone and try to get to a connected tile, you just get hit anyway since a lot of the time she moves faster than normal. Tbh I don’t think she should have haste in her power anymore at all, it’s just not necessary anymore.
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She's still completely braindead and frustrating to face IMO, but people are allowed to enjoy her. Just be prepared to play a PVE game. That's been my experience even after her rework.
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All of these I agree with.
As others have said, play her if you like her. That’s your choice. But yes I still hate going against her and most days I’m totally willing to eat the DC penalty in order to not deal with her.
(To be clear I’m not encouraging anyone to DC I’m just saying that that’s how I feel when I go against her personally because I hate her)
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If you figure out a way to Shanghai people into staying in a match we'll gladly support you ~
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I still despise this killer and think she’s unsalvageable, but if you wanna play her, go right ahead.
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Artist was the first killer ti have a power that would force you to leave a loop or outplay the killer. You would need ti know where to place your crows and then predict and time correctly.
But no no, that wasn't enough for killers. They need to press a button so survivor is then forced to leave whatever loop the killer desires.
Knight and Skullmerchant should not even exist.
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Artist has her own thing though where she can shoot someone across the map through walls. Your comparison only works if you are STRICTLY comparing antiloop.
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Dont ever let any other player dictate what you can or cant do, as long as you are not breaking the rules or cheating.
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Play who you want. I decided to play Demogorgon in the last 24 hours. I stopped simply because all I get are gen rushing SWFs. It just isn't fun because Demogorgon cannot keep up. I'll slow down when I notice it is a team of solos.
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You're not allowed to play well with any killer.
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they switched her abysmal 3 genning playstyle with an abysmal chase interaction.
she gets everything in her kit with barely any effort to use properly she's just braindead and not fun to face still.
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She's still an instant go next for me, and luckily for my friends too. So there's not even a debate about it
Bhvr just failed with this killer, and failed with the rework (please don't do the same mistake with trickster)
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I only really hate her design and lore. Personally I have no problems going against her now knowing how to deal with her drones and accepting when to take the L.
I'd still like her haste bonuses removed though. I think she has enough now with the hindered and injure/deep wound mechanic.
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Long as you don't try to play chess, which doesn't work anywhere near as good as it used to, she's mostly fine in my games. Strong, but not unbeatable. I do reasonably well, only thing that keeps hurting me is the constant leavers.
I genuinely believe a lot of people want to hold their prejudices against her, and as such no one wants to even try and play against her. This then means noone gets to really learn against her in a proper game, so she just stays in this hated state. People made up their mind about SM before the rework even came out, and seem to hate it on principle.
Agree with @ChaosWam though. While I actually like SM personally, her kit does feel a little "and then it does, and then it does, and then it does...". Hindered or haste would be enough, she doesn't really need both at base.
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I don't think Skull Merchant is a problem any longer, but its going to take awhile for the idea of how bad she was to fade away. Even though I enjoy playing against her now, when I see the Skull Merchant its still a reflexive 'ugh' feeling.
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I'd be fine with losing the Haste buff, but I want them to bring back survivors having to manually remove the claw traps again.
Agreed on the first part, still think her design and lore are bad, maybe the worst in the game, but at least she's fun to play as now and that's what's most important.
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if your going remove anything, remove hindered. haste is only consistent effect she has in the chase.. to me, it seems that you don't accept losses because your asking for negative changes.
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I don't accept losses? The haste has carried me in loops like crazy, especially in this MFT meta. I barely bank on the hindered, or never really even notice it for the most part.
I dislike haste bonuses that last entirely too long in general, killer or survivor.
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So SM is sibgularity simulator for survs,
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Sounds like Trapper to me.
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if you play killer you'll be hated, why do you even care. play what you want, I played cenobite today and people disconnected, I'm generally getting 1-2 dc every other game, it's very common. it just so happened that skull merchant is the strongest and survivors don't like to lose
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WDYM I will always take that tall glass of water, called Pyramid Head lmao. But jokes aside, it is true though 😅 Is there even a killer that isn't very hated for whatever reason?
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