Stop requesting nerfs!

It's easier to nerf 5 perks to match the other 100 than to buff 100 perks to match 5. The latter isn't just hard, I'd say it's unmanageable.

Nice mindset.

Let me introduce your local nurse main to you. You would get along very well I think.

Do you read what I said?

Your spinning my words.

I said that making everything overtuned is not good. That doesn't mean everything has to be undertuned.

Why only think in extremes?

Also. 4 people can bring dark theory and create 4 boons. Making 4 areas 2% haste zones. Saying that 2% is not that much of a difference to 3% is like saying that 1% is not much of a difference to 2%. Therefore no haste is not that much of a difference to 1%. 3% however does make a big difference. So sorry, haste in general dies make a difference.

We got a second wave of Hex Perks that only spawn on the map once their condition is met, ie Plaything, FaceTheDarkness and now the new TwoCanPlay and I would argue that this Hex perks are much more fun to play, because they offer a sort of reliability that's totally missing from the traditional hexes.

Why am I writing this paragraph? Because I think boons could use a second wave of effects, too. Right now all boons are streamlined to having the same range and effect around the totem, no matter their effect.

I would love more personal boons. Something like

Boon: Dark Theory - the first time ou get wounded, a dull totem on the map gets blessed and you gain a mapwide +2% haste effect that persists as long as you are wounded. But for every second being chased by the killers, they get 1m aura reading on the totem. The perk gets deactivated permanently once this totem gets snuffed

Or another reactive one:

Boon: Charmed Life - the first time you are put into the dying state, one dull totem on the map gets blessed and you enter deep wound. This Boon now holds a part of your life force, if the killer snuffs it, your aura will be revealed for 9s and you become exposed for 1min.

I exclusively play solo now because the people I played with bailed out completely in the last 2 years. Information, getting healed quickly, and maneuvering during chases is essential. To that end I use Kindred, Inner Strength, (as a backup and 8 seconds to heal is tremendous), Resurgence, (even if I can't get healed under the hook, I'm still in good shape unless it's a lazy killer that immediately chases me), and an exhaustion perk which I rotate. I used to love Bond, Kindred, and Open Handed but that leaves me with almost nothing else to work with.

All that blathering to say, I agree that most survivor perks now aren't very useful.

BHVR literally buffed Background Player during the previous mid-chapter. It's not like the devs are only nerfing perks, they do buff perks at times. MFT was long overdue for a nerf, because there's no good reason survivors needed always online haste. MFT still has the 3% haste, but now is limited to deep wounds which if you're being tunneled, utilize one of the several endurance giving perks or the med-kit addon for endurance it'll put in value.

Throw on we'll make it. I always have that perks because is altruistic and I take joy in that, maybe throw on solidarity to so you get some back.

This is probably the equivalent of screaming at the wall but we'll do it again anyway.

Survivor perks aren't useless. Some are situational, come can be countered, some have restrictions, but almost all do their job and do it well.

Its the survivors fault that they're unwilling to try anything else or learn anything other than get into the killers face to try and fail looping for 5 gens.

This also applies to killers. Look at how many times people run 3-4 slowdowns. Heck since ST came back we've seen at least 4 different demos with effectively the same build back to back. There ARE more things than slowdowns, but ppl still only really use them instead of learning to play with others.

You probably should be blaming players for playing the same thing rather than perks.

Sloppy only works on M1s, survivors can heal each other, and survivors have access to perks to increase healing speeds.

Not to mention the killer is a 1 player team facing a 4 player team.

Sloppy isn't a problem like MFT was.

Removing the inconvenience and effort from Killer role makes things less fun for Survivor role. Why bother being good when Devs encourage less effort to play. The game is very focused on Casuals and does nothing for those who are not.

There are plenty of good perks on the survivor side, people just don't want to run them.

That's fine, obviously, people can run what they feel like, but it becomes a problem when perks that are totally fine and even quite strong in the right builds/with the right playstyles get called "useless", and when people start making broad sweeping claims about how "survivors only have five good perks". Neither of those statements are true.

Experiment with your builds. Think about what you actually want, how you like to play, and peruse the other available perks in that class. Maybe start thinking about playing differently, to spice things up for yourself. There's a metric boatload of good healing options, maybe try running some of those every once in a while. Maybe go for a killer-info build and bring underutilised tools like Alert.

The real issue is, people keep latching onto whatever is currently strongest - like MFT, or release Circle of Healing - and use that as their baseline for "good". That isn't the baseline, it's far and away above it; those two perks were too strong, not just only meeting the bar for viable strength.

1 they also often have add ons which are easily gained.

2 sloppy is just as easy to deal with as MFT to us. No heal perks, takes longer to heal through sloppy which is dangerous against almost all killers. No exhausted perks or add ons, takes longer to chase an injured survivor. And when chased to a dead zone they still go down relatively quickly. Yes we see it like this and have DEALT with it like such.

3 some killers do infact ignore the injured state by instant down (or in Meyers case death).

4 Sometimes it's the smart thing to not chase an injured survivor immediately. Especially if that survivor is smart enough to go to a strong area and smart enough to use it.

While pre-nerf CoH was definitely nowhere near as broken as release CoH, and I was in the minority opinion back then that it was totally fine on its own... people didn't run it on its own. They ran it with medkits, and other sources of healing speed, and those things made it completely unjustifiably overpowered.

You can't buff killer considerably to accommodate for something being that disgustingly broken. Bare minimum, you'd end up with survivors needing to run CoH or they'd be completely slaughtered, if that were the case.

While Circle is less useful now for solos specifically, it's still a very strong perk and it's much more healthy. This is still a good outcome, the game wouldn't be better with its pre-nerf version still around.