#bringbackSadako IS REAL!!!!!!!
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Maybe, but in a healthy way.
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You took my comment way too seriously. And heavily disagree with your comment but that's our difference in opinion :)
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History of bhvr killer reworks.
Killer before update: 6/10
Killer after update: 7/10
Killer after bhvr panic reverse: 4/10
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Hows billy factor into this?
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Killer after people still complain and BHVR tries to satisfy them : 1 / 10.
Sadako already depends on green and iridescent addons and slugging to function. If they intend to nerf those, they better significantly buff her somehow, otherwise she will join the forgot club along with Freddy, Xeno, Singularity, Billy and few others.
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Singularity isn‘t something for everybody, you have to like him to sweat for those kills. For me the emps are way too frustrating.
Billy isn‘t week, but he could be better. I have no problems playing him.
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Honestly im more excited for his addon pass since i can mostly play his current form. But making overheat even more non-existant i won't complain about. Just the fact big bucke, black grease, and pighouse gloves exists. I hate it so much.
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Ah yes, i'm assuming "survivors can't tunnel gens its their objective"?
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You mean billy right? If yes, new addons would be great. I only use the higher turning one(purple) and running threw pallets one (purple) and others to fill up.
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The weakest killer in the game, Freddy, is forgotten for years. Only exception: We get "Bug-Fixes", which are massive nerfs imo.
If BHVR has no clue what to do with Freddy, then send @GeneralV and myself a message and we chat about changes the Freddy-Players would love to see. I dont need S-Tier Freddy, a B-Tier Freddy in terms of strengh with a nice little skillcap and potential would be more than enough at this point.
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I thought myers is the lowest now after trappers buffs?
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Myers has the strongest addons in the game.
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Mk im just going by where i normally see him placed by others. How he feels to play. His disadvantages compared to other killers (being pure m1) he does have insane addons (like tombstone) but also addons like stalk movement speed. And even tombstone makes him barely decent. Hes also the only one to permanently run out of his power.
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True
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Freddy is the weakest killer.
He is the only killer in the game that has no option to become oppressive.
His snares are too weak for anti loop and can be disabled via missing a skill check. The tp has an insane cooldown. The addons are absolutely abysmal.
Freddy is the only killer where his best addon is iridescent and could be completely made basekit without making him too oppressive in any way.
He's just bad.
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Easy task for us.
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They sometimes skip step 2.
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Im honestly interested in your ideas. Make a post in feedback and suggestions?
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If they revert the changes with her condemn being global then that's gonna be the worst change ever for her imo. She has no real chase power so she needs a good slowdown power to compensate for that and her global condemn is what made that happen. The main reason a lot of survivors complained about her being too oppressive/strong is because they literally refuse to spend a few seconds to interact with her TVs either because they're just simply too lazy to even bother learning a killer's counter or they're not wanting to get 2 stacks of condemn from getting hit with a tape which isn't even a problem since the tapes can remove up to 2.75 stacks when you put them into a TV.
I cannot express how frustrating it is for me to be playing against an Onryo and it's not even the killer that is the problem, but rather my teammates. I'll be on a generator and see that my teammates are about to be fully condemned while I'm chilling at like 0.75 stack(s) because I'm using her counter-play of holding onto a tape and efficiently managing my condemn meter like survivors should be when playing against her.
The only reason survivors never complained about her before is due to the facts that she's easy to loop and you'd almost never get hit with her condemn unless she was doing the Slugdako playstyle of slugging survivors to spread condemn. That's why people are complaining now because she's not a total pushover like she was before her rework.
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I liked playing her old version, I hate what they did to her TVs and tp cooldowns. Since the tape rework all TVs are off. There is a discussion in feedback tab, where you can find a lot of good ideas from me and others. I can understand if you don‘t want to read all of this discussion.
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Honestly this is how I feel playing against Sadako. Granted there are ones that still condemned slug/condemned tunnel someone out, but for normal Sadako gameplay of just managing tapes it gets obvious people still don't understand the counterplay and act like new Sadako is just broken.
At the very least with the changes, I want Condemned to be more prevalent than her old iteration and tapes to matter. That's what makes me like the current Sadako. If they can nerf down her problematic playstyles and keep her fun, I'll be happy.
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Disagree.
Global condemned ruined a lot of what was unique about her. Soloq will always be an uncoordinated mess. The current Sadako thrives from this. Why punish soloq more than swf?
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Jep if condemned players and the players like me that liked the tp part are both happy, I‘m happy.
I hope they just buff her whole old kit in both ways.
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My original idea was this one:
Power: Dream Demon
Pull survivors into the Dream World
-Survivors who are awake do not see The Nightmare.
-Once targeted by The Nightmare’s power, survivors enter the Dream Transition for 7 seconds.
-During the Dream Transition Survivors can see The Nightmare intermittently and they suffer from the Incapacitated status effect.
-When the Dream Transition Lapse, the Survivor is pulled into the Dream World.
Once in the Dream World:
-Survivor’s auras are revealed to The Nightmare when they are outside of his terror radius.
-Survivors suffer an action speed penalty of 40%.
-To exit the Dream World, Survivors can find non-sleeping Survivors to perform a wake up action.
-Failed Skill Checks can also wake up.
-Hooked Survivors wake up.
Special Ability: Dream Projection
-Teleport to a Generator in view. Releasing the button early will cancel the action.
-Survivors cannot interact with the targeted Generator.
“You have nothing to worry about. This won’t hurt one… little… bit.” -Freddy Krueger
Its essentially a little mix between pre-rework and post-rework, with a few improvements, but it could be tweaked further.
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I feel like the reason Freddy is so low priority is because no one was really vocal about him until recently. Everyone knows he sucks and no one plays him so there's no real vocal community fighting for him. He doesn't have any content creators that really fight for him like Sadako and Trickster have and every time someone does talk about him it's just them saying "yeah he sucks" and then move on to the next topic.
Recently there has been a lot more support and discussions about it, but I feel like it took too long for people to start talking about him for BHVR to actually want to act on it.
So hopefully if we keep talking about him it might get them to push him up the priority list.
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Sounds nice!
Id be down for that.
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I'm glad you liked it!
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I like Freddy. I play him every now and then. The rework was problematic and the nerfs only uncovered the truth about that. Original Freddy was very unique. I like that. That's why I defend Pig's traps and Sadako original version.
Right now, Freddy is in a really sad state. I would love to see him improve.
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Exactly my way too. I would add one single thing tho:
"When survivors are in the Dream Transition, they suffer from the Incapacitated-Status-Effect."
In the end, we would have Original-Freddy with the Ability of pulling survivors asleep like before. He would have his Terror-Radius in the Dreamworld, where the action is, so he would be able to use a lot of perks like Coulrophobia too.
Basically Original-Freddy with the addition of the Incapacitated-Status-Effect and the current Dream Projection. The Dream Projection-Cooldown should come in line with the Dredge-Cooldowns.
Thats it. Of course you could add fake-things into the Dreamworld randomly like Fake-Hex-Totems (a Totem becomes a Dream-Hex-Totem, but its actually a Dull-Totem) or Fake-Generators, who would explode in blood when survivors are working on it for more than 10 seconds. Something like that could be added to the Dreamworld.
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Haha, the concept already has it:
"-During the Dream Transition Survivors can see The Nightmare intermittently and they suffer from the Incapacitated status effect."
I got ya covered, friend :)
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Oh wow I really "overreaded" this lol.
Hey BHVR, hey Peanits, here you go. Easy task.
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I can make the add-ons too, if they want. We literally fixed a character for them.
Devs, if any of you see this, listen to people who actually understand and care about this killer.
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Calm down. :) let's be civil here
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Incorrect. Also, who is "we"? The complainers that are never happy? The year one players that have left?
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The players that gave their supportive and constructive feedback on the Ptb.
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