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What are your opinions about Streetwise & Overwhelming Presence?

Astel
Astel Member Posts: 661

What are your thoughts about these two perks?

Comments

  • NomiNomad
    NomiNomad Member Posts: 3,181

    Pretty bad IMO, but Streetwise is a little better.

    There are just better options, imo. Built to Last and Franklin's Demise serve similar purposes, but are just straight up better.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,914

    Streetwise is nice to have but not all that strong. Overwhelming Presence is probably one of the worst perks in the game. It can work on Wesker with Distressing on a small map but in a normal game, it's worthless. Nobody forces the survivor to use their item while the killer is nearby.

    It will not counter toolboxes because a toolbox will be depleted before the killer even finds that survivor, you do not want to heal with a medkit while the killer is near, nobody uses keys and maps and to counter flashlights, you have Lightborn.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    What if OW decrease 20% charges of items in general, no TR needed? The perk alone can deny self healing of basic 24 charges Medkits. Which can be powerful.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,730
    edited December 2023

    If it went a method like that where it can deny items and medkits most prominently I think having the item drain charges while in chase would suffice better since it still asks you to do a little bit for a strong effect against medkits

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266
    edited December 2023

    23 charges medkits will not give survivor a self healing, you dont need Medkits to be depleted. Plus killers chase for down, by the time down a survivor, items will be depleted. And the way to counter this perk would be drop item before getting into chase like Franklin.

    And with SWF, 1 recognize it and other 3 will drop, however, this will suffer Solo the most.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    Streetwise should get the open handed treatment where it’s buffed to a higher % but has its stacking capabilities removed

  • pale_hispanic
    pale_hispanic Member Posts: 149

    They both suck and have better counterparts in Built for Last and Franklin’s. You can run some fun builds if you can combine aura-reading key with Streetwise + BfL, but Overwhelming is just straight up useless.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,730
    edited December 2023

    you can still self heal with 23 charges with skill checks

    just make it so if you set down an item it loses 20% of charges

    I don't like the passive efficiency reduction because you don't have to do anything to earn it I think making it more active would be more fun

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 7,088
    edited December 2023

    Streetwise is okay.

    Overwhelming is one of the worst perks in the game. It’s very unreliable, you don’t even know when it’s working, and survivors can just stop using their item if they see it and save it for when they’re out of your terror radius, unless it’s a flashlight. If you want to counter medkits, Coulrophobia and Franklin’s are both better at that.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,238

    streetwise is overpowered in 4 man swf with charge add-on and commodos toolboxes with permanent 50% repair speed the entire game... but it is not that strong in soloq.

    Overwhelming presence is useless on every map that is not gideon's with distressing. Nobody uses it because it has no consistency. Killer consider using perks to counter items a total waste.

  • jmwjmw27
    jmwjmw27 Member Posts: 551
    edited December 2023

    Streetwise is niche and is only good for infinite flashlight (outclassed by BTL and unnecessary in games that don't go 40 minutes), sweaty double heal medkit builds, and genrush builds. I guess you can also run it with aura reading key but I never noticed a difference. I wish it felt like you were actually buffing your teammates like leader and vigil do.

    Overwhelming presence is terrible and the only time I've used it is for Doctor's adept and the anti-heal distressing build with new coulrophobia. I don't know what can be done with it to not make it stupid with Wesker+distressing on a small map though.

  • ShowNoMercy
    ShowNoMercy Member Posts: 57

    in all my years of playing survivor I have never seen a killer that used overwhelming presence.

  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 2,960

    Overwhelming Presence's effect could be doubled or even tripled and it still wouldn't be very good. It either needs an additional effect or a full rework.

    Here's a crazy rework idea: a survivor performing a fast vault while in chase reduces their held item's charges by -20%.

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,347

    Streetwise is fine. It's not powerful, but it does have a decent use and, when working with other Survivors who also have items, this can be a decent addition as a team perk.

    Overwhelming Presence is far too weak. I would rework it so that a Survivor would scream if they were using an item within the Killer's terror radius, then change "Inefficient" to a status effect whereby, for the next 40/50/60 seconds, if a Survivor uses their item it depletes 80%/90%/100% faster. It would make it far more useful and give it some utility.