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Thoughts on Killer dc penalty?

I’m curious what everyone’s thoughts are on this.

Should killers get a dc penalty and be replaced with a bot just as a survivor does? Yes or no? explain why you think so.

please no fighting.

Comments

  • Avo
    Avo Member Posts: 190

    I prefer real killer instead an infinite 360able AI. Jokes aside, the current situation is good right now.

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,439

    I don't think killer should be replaced with a bot, more than one survivor bot and it's alt+f4 worthy. Survivors don't deserve to queue up against a bot that they didn't intend to.

    DC penalty should be 5M/30M/1H for both sides

    Survivor should not be able to void the dc penalty by "SELF UNHOOKING" . This isn't defendable by the way, it's not that I don't want to have a conversation about it but that there's only a couple below mediocre arguments against me here. I've seen them all and removing it will help in the long run(a whole 3-6 months).

    There you go, I just fixed 1/8 to 1/10 games easily.

  • appleas
    appleas Member Posts: 1,129

    People would complain.

    Because they wouldn’t get a free escape but have to play the game out against a Terminator

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    My guess is the killer will have wall hacks like the survivors currently have, it would be like what some hackers use.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,514

    There are currently no Killer-Bots. And while I know that BHVR is working on them (mainly for the Custom Games), I dont think that a Bot will EVERY be somewhat as good like an actual player. At least for the more complex Killer. Sure, a Bot will be able to play Trapper or Wraith, but I dont see that a Bot can play Blight or Singularity (as examples) in a way that it might actually be interesting to go against.

    Also, the game ends when the Killer DCs. And I would rather have that than having to play against a Bot.

    (But in general, my opinion has always been that Bots dont belong in Public Games. Especially the useless ones we currently have)

  • spagz
    spagz Member Posts: 91

    I agree for sure. Penalty for both sides, maybe killers is less?

    I'm a survivor main but I do feel bad for some killers when other survivors are being toxic or they are getting obliterated about to lose the match with no kills. If the killer wants to dc at that point— I’m totally cool with it. BUT there are times the killer definitely deserves a dc penalty.

    IMO when you’re playing killer and you dc, you aren’t really letting anyone down since you don’t have teammates. When a survivor does it, you’re letting three other people down.

    The bot I think could go so many ways. It could make the game easy, sweaty, annoying, funny, etc. you just never know. I think it would be cool if it was tested out, but also playing against a bot or having them on your team is so dull.

  • spagz
    spagz Member Posts: 91

    Yeah the bots now are just….well they are there lol if there was an improvement to the bots so they can use sound instead of seeing through walls, could be something to explore. But I agree that bots will never be like an actual player so it’s not something that’s too important atm I imagine.

  • blackfox0408_fr_
    blackfox0408_fr_ Member Posts: 79

    Killer bots are not on point for this exercice, they are at the point of the most basic things but can't compete in chase, so yeah, not happening.

    And there is no reason to implement it, idk if you did ever but playing against bots only is bad, very bad mentally, so i don't think it would be better if you destroyed bots instead of just going next.

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    BHVR won't put the time into making AI for ever killer who can actually use their powers well. Even the Trapper AI they have in the tutorial is awful.

    It would be nice if they added it, but killers don't DC nearly as often as survivors do, so it's not as important of a change.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,946

    I don't care about killer bots as long as they are done right but I think dc penalties need to stay. We do not need people disconnecting left and right just because something doesn't work out perfectly.

    If others want killer bots, then I'm fine with it but I'll say playing against survivor bots is incredibly boring but less impactful. So I'd recommend playing against bots in a custom game just to see what to expect.

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,260

    Either both sides get DC penalty or nobody does. And you dont want killers to be able to ragequit like survivors. Just the mere thought of a killer pulling the cable when stunned or blinded should make anyone realize this is a bad idea.

    Just fix survivors being able to ignore the penalty instead.

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 1,648

    I hope they never give killer DC bots, few things beat the comedy of the fade-to-black when a killer taps out early

  • Nos37
    Nos37 Member Posts: 4,142

    Who says the bots needs to be able to use their powers?

    Just program a basic attack bot. When a 110% movespeed killer disconnects buff their movespeed to 115% like the rest of the basic attack killers. (Might be OP on Chucky though)

  • ProfessorDunwich
    ProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 1,514

    Wouldn’t want your antagonism of another person to be hampered. Always appreciate when people say the quiet part out loud.

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 1,648
    edited December 2023

    Hey man, I also think it's really funny when a survivor activates my hubris, runs into a dead zone, gets insta downed, and disconnects

  • JudithMorel
    JudithMorel Member Posts: 562

    killers dont get penalties for dc's like survivors do?

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,429

    We don't need killer bots. There's never any reason to face off against a pure bot opposition in live games.

    Killer DCs = survivors automatically escape

    So... all 4 survivors DC should = automatic 4K

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 1,648

    Just wanted to give you an update on this, I had a game where two people disconnected after going down first time in completely normal chases and I found it to be the funniest thing ever.

    I don't find humor in antagonizing people, I find humor in people choosing to put themselves through a penalty because of normal gameplay. People overreacting to, overinterpreting or otherwise being unreasonable about completely normal stuff is what's funny, and that goes for both survivor and killer players