How would you turn these low tier killers to high tier killers?

Can't without making them insanely unfun to vs.

There's no way to make them high tier by just cranking up some numbers or add an additional effect. Only real exception here is Wraith who I believe is already pretty solid.

Trapper should have Bloody Coil and Trapper Sack (without downside) basekit, but even with this he will be mid tier killer.

Trapper spawns with all 10 traps, sets them much much faster, and it now takes 10 seconds to disarm a trap

To be honest most of them are fine. Radical changes would be needed to make them high-tier.

People still use them and win given their expertise or the add-ons / builds their use.

Of all Freddy stands out as he requires a complete rework.

Myers does not require a complete rework as opposed to many people believe - he just needs different / better add-ons so that people do not rely on the Tier 3 enhancing ones too much.

I'll try to be very generous with these changes, since the goal is to turn them into high tiers not balance them. But not go too crazy and turn everyone into nurse.

Trapper: all traps spawn somewhat near generators, like alien/sadako's power. You could even predefine good trap spots for loop tiles. But with enough range that they are not predictable. The traps also start armed. Now trapper doesn't have to travel as far to pick up his power and starts with it already active (some amount of slowdown+lethality at the start). I don't think this on its own would make him high tier though, so you'd probably have to do something else to give him a bit of mobility. I suggest a 10% haste buff for 10 seconds when a survivor gets caught in a trap, so you can make it over there in time, and increase the time it takes for survivors to rescue others from traps.

Myers: 110% at tier 1 with 75% lunge instead of the pathetic lunge he has now. Stalking now works if you can see even one pixel of the survivor's model instead of a set percentage of it. Survivors no longer run out of stalk, and stalk drop-off over distance mechanic is reduced significantly. Basekit brutal strength+fire up for tier 3 as well as 5% haste for 5 seconds on reaching a higher tier. Additionally, myers has tombstone mori basekit on survivors who have already been hooked twice (why not). Now he doesn't start as slow, is very lethal, and can properly punish teams if even one person messes up.

Clown: Basekit bottles up to 8. Decrease base reload speed and increase movement speed while reloading. Direct hits with bottles apply an additional 5% slow to survivors. Invigoration lasts 2 seconds longer and gets 2.5% bonus movespeed. Now Clown has a somewhat reliable traversal and slightly better chase than before.

Freddy: Survivors get closer to falling asleep every time Freddy hits a different survivor with his melee weapon. Same for hooking a survivor. The "golden" 30 seconds from the clocks now instantly disappear if Freddy hits you once. Increase clock usage time for waking up significantly. Adrenaline no longer wakes sleeping survivors. When all survivors are asleep, Freddy has no cooldown on his teleport. For each asleep survivor, Freddy gets +1 dream snare and snares slow for 1% more. Dream pallets now spawn over time naturally with a spawnrate based on how many survivors are asleep.

Wraith: Wraith is more of a low tier than a mid tier, but here's what I would do. Increase post-uncloak movespeed and lunge bonus. Wraith can pick up downed survivors and hook them while cloaked. The range to hear wraith's breathing and his fully-uncloaked whoosh are reduced. Bonus stun time from stunning cloaked wraith removed. Now his chase is better, he can play pallets with pallet control and he's somewhat stealthier.

Pig: Increase crouched movement speed to 95% (from 3.6m/s to 3.8m/s). Ambush dash duration increase to 3 seconds and charge time decrease to 0.5 seconds, decrease time to place head trap from 3.3 to 1 second. Increase jigsaw boxes on the map to 7, survivors now must do 5 boxes exactly, but trap timer is increased by 1 minute. Doing generator repairs with a bear trap on your head will activate it. Now the Pig's ambush in chase is actually a threat and she can utilize it if given pallet control (like Midwich, but now works on most maps). Additionally, having to search 5 boxes per trap means Pig gets a lot of base slowdown per trap which is insane.

Legion: lethal hit at 4th slash instead of 5th, +10 second base duration for feral frenzy, and killer instinct revealed while using power, no hit required. That's it. Legion now has the best tracking in the game and enough duration to constantly hit 4 chains, requiring survivors to bodyblock (giving little distance in a lethal chase) or waste a pallet. FF is now lethal enough that survivors have to play around it, and a big map won't stop Legion from punishing a mistake.

Ah, I see.

I had forgotten the effects of the new one, actually.

But don't worry. If it was up to me, the change would come with an add-on pass. I have it ready, just didn't post it here because it is a lot of information for a single comment. Though I can add it, if you'd like.

Alright then.

Tell me if you change your mind. I always happy to share my ideas.

The Trapper definitely needs to start with all of his traps at the very least. As far as making him high tier?

Mm…

• Trapper Sack basekit
• Tension Spring basekit
• Secondary Coil basekit
• Making his traps inflict one damage state instead of only injury. Injured Survivors should go into a dying state when caught.

Don't underestimate Pig's anti loop. It's not great, but she can play around some pretty save loops. It would go a long way to raise her movement speed while crouched to 102% (slightly faster than a survivor, so leaving the loop doesn't become the go to strategy against her). That's really all I think she needs in terms of buffs. Maybe some of her addons could use some slight changes too. As a compensation they could make it impossible for survivors to die to a reversed bear trap while they are searching a box but that is debatable.

I am unsure of what to do with Sadako to be honest. If the survivors play very well, then she falls off. But most survivors have trouble keeping up with her constand pressure, so making her stronger in chase would really hurt them. With her, the devs are in a bit of a pickle, I fear. Maybe we should wait for her upcoming changes before we think about that too much. They have said, they wanted to bring her closer to her original design after all.

For Clown, I would like to see one or two more bottles base kit. He should be encouraged to use the yellow bottles for mobility in my opinion. As it is, he won't do that very often because then he doesn't have enough bottles in chase.

I like your idea for Trapper very much but I'm not sure how that would work. They would need to find a good middle ground of his traps being hard but also not impossible to spot. Maybe they could also be slightly increased in size and this whole thing with vaulting over traps could be looked at. With that I think Trapper could be in a pretty good spot. Not A tier level but very decent.

bvhr doesn't balance maps. they balance killer power to play on said maps. those killer are bad because their power is not good enough to play on bvhr's map design. BVHR is lazy to buff killer powers because whenever they do buff a killer power, they get freddy'd nerfed to be ineffective.

they have to look at every individual killer and buff their numbers or remove drawbacks from the ability till the power is good.

Clown and Wraith could probably be made better via number buffs pretty easily.

If a revert to old Freddy is off the table, I'd like for him to be able to use both snares and pallets at the same time and rebuff how many of each he can have out at a time. Also the man desperately needs an addon pass.

The others... the problem with them is that their powers all can inflict more than just a health state if not properly countered. Which means they need to be easier to counter than most other killers. Which means they fall off hard once Survivors know what's up. And buffing them to be harder to counter can cause serious issues.