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Is there something wrong with the matchmaking?

drsoontm
drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

I've played 3 matches with Chucky, total.

I've won one, lost the other two. (I can't handle his dash yet.)

But from that point all I got in front were teams of prestige above 50. When I have already trouble with beginners.

Needless to say it didn't go well.

After two losses (rushed) I've started dodging lobbies trying to get a team on the right range but gave up after a while.

Granted I've not played for a long time but I don't recall it was like that before.

Comments

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    But prestige has nothing to do with matchmaking. a lot of people with high prestige dont have much skill, and mmr is a complete different metric.

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    Obviously; but prestige is an indication of the experience of the player.

    If I have trouble to get a Dwight with prestige 0 to 1 (I really suck at Chucky for now) there is no chance I'll perform against someone with more experience.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,317

    I think so.

    My trials have been fine as survivor, but as killer I'm constantly being sent to fight against survivors who are clearly more skilled than I am. I don't know where the hell did MMR throw me, but I do not belong there.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,369
    edited December 2023

    It's so hard to say anymore. The complete lack of transparency is frustrating. I don't understand why we're not worthy of seeing what is happening with matchmaking in the game we bought. And I don't understand how we're supposed to provide feedback on an invisible system, or how the devs are supposed to improve a system based on blind feedback.

    Players might be toxic or elitist about seeing MMR? Ok. Ban them. You have a report system. Players might be competitive? Yeah I can't imagine what pubs would look like if that were the case. Good thing it doesn't happen now. Players don't want to see their MMR or don't want others to see it? Let them turn it off.

  • MrDrMedicman
    MrDrMedicman Member Posts: 303

    Because killers used to afk all game to drop lobbies to a certain range. They couldn't handle the bully squads of the time (they were oppressive) and wanted to have fun kicking bad players

  • o7o
    o7o Member Posts: 335

    It's been like this for a while, for me at least. Can 3-4k back-to-back, get put against gamers with 200-1000 hours, lose a couple games and I'll be going against more experienced survivors. Which is supposed to be the other way around. Survivor, I can escape, etc, and still get teammates with ~200 total hours on the game also against a killer with roughly the same hours as them, and I'm the only experienced one with triple their hours. I just don't get it. MMR works when it wants to otherwise it never really does.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,369
    edited December 2023

    Well that's the thing. There could very well be long-standing bugs with SBMM and we would have no way of reporting it, and the devs wouldn't know it exists if they weren't looking for it. Look at the rest of their quality control. I doubt they have much in the way logging for matchmaking. It's a lot harder to troubleshoot "feels bad" than it is to troubleshoot concrete numbers. As a server admin IRL, I can't imagine saying to a group of users, "I'm not going to tell you how this is supposed to work or let you see that it's working. Just let me know if it feels bad and I'll start changing random things based on what I think."

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    And why do you think you stuggle more against my prestige 3 dwight than against my prestige 100 claudette?

    Its still the same player, no matter what prestige you are chosen.

    Also, just because you are new to chucky, if you are an experienced killer, you have enough game sense and map knowledge to cope with a decent amount of skill. You should not be playing against new and inexperienced survivors then, at least thats my opinion.

  • sulaiman
    sulaiman Member Posts: 3,219

    Because this community has already shown, if they know the details, they will try to manipulate the metric to get easy games (look up deranking in DBD).

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    You don't get it. I know I'll have trouble against a p100, from the get go.

    With a p3, I may have chance. He might not be a "secret" p100.

    That's not so difficult to understand is it?

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    That's a good point. It didn't occur to me that showing numbers would help people to cheat them.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,367

    The reason is most likely that you have only played 3 matches with him. The game has based your MMR on your other killers. After one win and two losses the MMR will hardly have dropped. Play 10 games and you should seem more realistic opposition, as long as you avoid any pre-existing lobbies.