General Discussions
General Discussions
Do you agree that Déjà vu is getting quite terrifying?
It is well known that the Déjà vu buff is a bandaid fix for the 3-gen solution and now that a plausible solution is coming, I have this feeling that perhaps the speed buff should be reversed.
I know that a good part of the community thinks this perk is not as good as it seems but I have seen the use of this perk increasing more and more and my experience as a veteran player at a high rank has been quite negative.
I'm realizing that the resilience and déjà vu combo is getting very frustrating in high ranks because if we're being honest, experienced players don't care about being injured and generators are being repaired very quickly.
I just had a match with 4 survivors using this combo and well... you can already imagine the result.
Maybe I'm wrong but I'd like to know your opinion on this perk!
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As Survivor, I also will run it with Prove Thyself and Resilience.
I play Killer exclusively at night and I see it at least once, sometimes twice per match.
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so we are having very different matches, not that there is anything wrong, but 90% of my matches have at least one or two survivor using déjà vu.
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It's good for finding gens, particularly on indoor maps, and helping with pinpointing which gen should be prioritised. Especially with some gens practically appearing right next to each other nowadays. That's the most useful thing about it. The 6% speed i could take or leave, I wouldn't care if they removed that.
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I thought it was the permanent aura reading that was the buff—not the bonus speed to repairing generators. I guess it depends on which version we’re talking about. If the devs reverse any part of its buff it should be what they most recently buffed (the permanent aura reading, the repair percent bonus was just 1% between the last two versions). Otherwise, it’s just nerfing the perk back to uselessness.
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let's be realistic, old deja vu was already a decent information perk, it lasted 1 minute every time a generator was completed, no one uses this perk nowadays because of the information but because of the speed buff.
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I believe they raised it by 1% per tier as well as the permanent aura.
I'd also like to note the buff was pretty much stated to be a bandaid until 3-gen was settled and fixed.
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Your talking about current survivor meta. 4 deja vu is already common. the teams that give me most trouble as killer are deja vu teams. deja vu has been terrifying ever since its buff for gen-rushing.
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So if they reverted it back to 5% speed boost instead of 6%, you think people would stop using it?
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It should be reverted to its 6.1.0 state now that 3-genning is being addressed.
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It's not individually strong, but it is definitely a more reliable addition to gen rush builds than Hyperfocus or Fast Track.
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It's a good perk, but nothing crazy. 6% only shaves off 5 seconds, which is helpful, but not broken.
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The standard for what is considered a strong survivor perk has been lowered so much that people find perks like Deja Vu problematic now. How sad.
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Just for clarification, this post is serious?
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It most likely is. Not the first time I see a complaint about Deja-Vu.
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The Perk is not that strong. The recent Buffs actually made it useable, but nothing more. The Speedboost is 5 seconds, compared with the Regression you get as a Killer, it is nothing. (Especially if we consider that kicking a Gen will remove 5% of progress in the future)
I almost never see the Perk in my games, if it would be that strong, I would see it more often.
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Meh. Let them have it. If killers in high ranks wanna bring pop and pain res then let them have deja vu resi. Especially with the reworked Grim embrace coming. Yea. Survivor is about to be even more insufferable anyways
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It sounds more like Resilience is the issue from your scenario.
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Not really. It's a fairly minor gen speed increase which you're not always going to be able to take advantage of. Stacked with Prove and Resi I guess it starts to actually be more useful but that's not Deja Vu at that point, that's three perks that all have different requirements to work.
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There we go. The long awaited post to kill off another decent survivor perk. I say decent, because it is far and away from overpowered. Unless you considere -5 seconds on a gen OP; in a game where a single kick can remove 25% off a gen progess.
It is well known that the Déjà vu buff is a bandaid fix for the 3-gen solution and now that a plausible solution is coming, I have this feeling that perhaps the speed buff should be reversed.
Do you have any source for that?
Sidenote: The 3 gen solution has basically no impact. Damaging a gen 8 times happens once every 1000 games or so.
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I'm too lazy to go looking, but I do remember a dev post about the buffs to Deja Vu being a 'fix' to help with 3-genning. The aura/repair boost was no longer on a timer with a very minor increase to repair speed. I remember this so well because I laughed at the thought that a 1% speed boost was going to counter a Killer stacking regression and camping a 3-gen from the start, aura permanence or not.
The perk was borderline trash tier before those changes. The 60 seconds to work on a gen seems generous until you consider travel time, etc. and the fact that the perk did not activate again until a gen was completed to reveal the potentially new 3 gen and that multiple gens popping around the same time severely limited the perk's usage. Pre-latest-buff Deja Vu did very little and while the buffs might have been laughable at countering a 3 gen, at least the perk has some decent use now. Decent, but by no means OP.
IDC if the 1% buff gets removed, but if the aura reading goes to being on a timer, the perk will go back to being well below mediocre.
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The maximum the perk can save is 10sec, and Im being generous. Means killer leave that survivor for 180sec sitting on Gen for that to happen. Which only happens if killer just tunneling someone else.
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I seriously don't understand why Deja Vu is such a hot topic. Its an alright perk dont get me wrong, but it doesnt really deserve to be on a pedestal
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And to think it was once considered the worst perk in the entire game.
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yeah you can change the Deja Vu once the slow down stop stacking, Pain Res + Pop is the stupidest ######### ever
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It's being used more because every map now has multiple instances of two generators being a stones throw from each other and literally within sight of each other. If they change that I guarantee you'll see less DV.
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Nope, not at all.
What is terrifying is how horrible is this perk, also very thanks to Deja Vu.
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Another case of "survivors can't have good perks"
Good chase perk? NO, NERF IT
Good healing perk? NO, NERF IT
Good objective perk? NO, NERF IT
What is even sadder about this is that Deja Vu is "free" whilst Visionary is not
Visionary needs a complete rework
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Honestly while I personally think Deja Vu could be fine reverted, even if it goes back to the original version it will still be a better perk than this one. Or really, any perk that highlights gens aside maybe rookie spirit if the gen regressing is at 80% or something. And let's not forget, these are mainly geared towards soloQ.
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Its a totally overhyped perk. Its not strong. Its just some beginner perk. The speedboost is neglctable.
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You don't even know how effective the three Gen solution will be yet.
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What do you mean with "at high rank"? You mean at high level? Because this game has no ranking system
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