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It feels hopeless on last-generation console

igotskiz
igotskiz Member Posts: 18
edited January 20 in General Discussions

I know this is just another rant, but I feel like I can't play the game anymore on my console. I play on a Playstation 4 Pro that's hardwired into a router and gets 50Mbps download, and I've been playing the game since it was free during August 2018. I've bought every character and I've got 16 Devotion, so I've put my fair share of blood, sweat and tears into the game.

I know it's not my internet connection. This game feels like it's horribly optimized for last generation hardware, and with every consecutive update it gets worse. It feels like the game is outpacing my hardware, and as a console player I can't upgrade.

Moving the cursor over menu items stutters the screen, switching menus causes (up to) several long second freezes, and PC players being able to move a couple seconds before I can when the game pans around the characters at the start of the match are the most glaring issues. My hitbox is a foot and a half behind me at any given time. I get hit at the tail end of a pallet animation, or after vaulting a window; even after getting prompts to use a flashlight or drop a fire cracker. These aren't new issues. They have existed since I've gotten the game.

It doesn't help that non-crossplay community is dead. Not an exaggeration. Not metaphor. Not figure of speech. It's 100% dead. The bloodpoint and queue times incentives have ran that into the ground. If you turn crossplay off, forget about some missed out opportunity to get +100% Bloodpoints; it's impossible to find a match. I've spent hours matchmaking with crossplay off on multiple Saturday and Sunday afternoons (peak hours, for anyone who's ever played a game that had a playerbase on life support). Nothing.

I love this game as an Overwatch refugee, I love the amount of care and content that the developers put into the game. But this game just feels terrible to play, and I can't help but envy when I watch a streamer or PC players in general get away with things that I'd be destroyed at. There's mountains of video evidence on YouTube to support my claims.

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Are there any plans for a console optimization patch? Any debugging features so we can troubleshoot our things on our side? Maybe even a playercount tracker to see if matchmaking without crossplay on to see if it'll even be a fruitful endeavor? In its current state, I feel like the game isn't far from being sunset on last generation consoles, similar to GTA V or Ps3/Xbox360 era games. I'd appreciate any feedback or insight.

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  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 2,861

    Moving the cursor over menu items stutters the screen, switching menus causes (up to) several long second freezes, and PC players being able to move a couple seconds before I can when the game pans around the characters at the start of the match are the most glaring issues. My hitbox is a foot and a half behind me at any given time. I get hit at the tail end of a pallet animation, or after vaulting a window; even after getting prompts to use a flashlight or drop a fire cracker.

    Unfortunately this happens to me as well on PS5 and PC. Minus the loading in late.

    Hitboxes are not accurate in the game, it's to be expected and everyone is always complaining about them. It's because they are designed to work with a variety of different looking characters. Like, the killer weapon hitbox is designed to work with Huntress axe and Legion's knife at the same time.

    I do know PS4 in general suffers from lower frame rates and stuttering nowadays but DBD is naturally janky. If you think the game feels more fair on higher end hardware i think you'll be disappointed. Yes you have more capability with better performance but everyone is subject to the hitboxes and other players latency.

  • Stroggz
    Stroggz Member Posts: 500

    What is hardwired into the router? Did you like melt the patchcord?

  • Huge_Bush
    Huge_Bush Member Posts: 5,424

    i assume they mean it’s connected to the router by Ethernet cable and not WiFi.

  • Mazoobi
    Mazoobi Member Posts: 1,569

    I get you. I still play on the Xbox One S when the game first came out on console and boyyyy does the game feel clunky as hell.

    I can only play Survivor because my frames are dogwater for killers. Even then, the frames are BARELY manageable for Survivor and I can tell that my game just wants to explode.

    I actually bought a new PC last year because I got a new job and saved up $ for it but I have over 5k hours on console and I still haven't made the switch until cross-progression happens. Not to mention I've spent a good amount on DLC and cosmetics.

    I just wonder why BHVR won't at least allow XBOX to PC considering Microsoft owns both. At least both of my products are.

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,690

    Have you tried to move the game to an external hard drive?

    In the old computer age copying files to a new drive sometimes improved stutters because of fragmentation.

    I am not sure if PS4 works that way but i moved DbD sometimes on my PS4 Slim.

    And as i still play on PS4 and PC i see it runs worse but it is not that bad for me. I can play both roles ok. Except from throwing killers who need good aim.

  • igotskiz
    igotskiz Member Posts: 18
    edited January 20

    Hard-wired as in ethernet cable going straight from Ps4 to the router. Internet settings set to a hard connection rather than wi-fi. And yea, I've had a feeling that this is sort of where it's going. Whenever I saw how GTA V started to run on Ps3/Xbox360, that's when it dawned on me that it was possible for a videogame to outpace the system it's on. I'm sure it's happened in the PC world plenty of times, but this is only the second time I've ever witnessed it on consoles.

    I have an external SSD. Whether the application data is stored locally on the console or on the external SSD makes no difference in performance. I've even tried rebuilding the database by restarting the Ps4 in Safe Mode, uninstalling and reinstalling the application. It's just janky as ######### on PlayStation 4.

    It's just frustrating because it's decent enough to where it's playable, but it's bad enough where you won't ever be able to be the best.

    I also have issues where the game will de-sync for a second while I'm being chased and on my screen, the killer will keep running forward after I've turned into a pallet and then it will update and I've been hit and the killer is wiping the weapon off. Does anyone else have this issue? I wanted to include this in my OP but I'm pretty sure this is an internet issue and not hardware related.


    (EDIT: funny how the forum censors words found in-game. the forum ideally should share the same age userbase as the game, which is rated M for Mature.)

  • WaveyTrey
    WaveyTrey Member Posts: 653

    Yeah. When I got my PS5 the game is playable again. My PS4 wasn’t having it.

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,347

    I very recently moved to the Xbox S (in the past week or so) when my Xbox One finally packed in.

    It is noticeable the difference, especially with load times and smoothness, but it was only the last month or so that I noticed the performance dipping, but I couldn't be sure of that was the gen or the machine on its last legs.

    The concern is that, as the game advances, it will be adding more and to a point - as much as I felt their optimization for older gen was decent - it will become more difficult to keep the performance.

  • Xyvielia
    Xyvielia Member Posts: 2,418

    I got my PS5 back in 2021 after travel resumed and the factories once again could ship the semiconductor chips.

    The performance quality improvement wasn’t as ‘night n day’ difference for me as it was for others, tho overtime I was noticing the specifics, especially on DBD.

    Playstation is notorious for not drastically dropping console prices until near the time they release an upgraded “Pro” version or entirely next gen system. They do have deals a few times a year (saw the disc drive edition down to $450).

    It’s highly doubtful anything will improve, performance-wise, for the previous gen consoles. Feels like most devs are on the same page and are all mostly disregarding them altogether.

    With PS5 slim at the ready, and PS5 Pro tentatively releasing Winter 2024, it’s probably time to just eat that bullet and upgrade, fr.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,913

    Unfortunately, you'll have to upgrade and be met with the same issue in two years