Is it litteraly impossible to loose as a killer with this build?

I run those 3 perks and plan to run grim embrace too 🤣

Or heal, or do totems, maybe even pop a chest open. If survivors make a habit of letting go of gens before the hook, the slowdown won't be much worse than Deadlock.

Killer gets value when they hook so just don't dying

Rushing gens. You have no early game gen defense and no chase perks. Meaning that your first chase should take a really long time because all the survivor has to do is predrop a god pallet. People often forget that every broken pallet buys the survivor a full 15+ seconds of distance. Now factor in that shift+w to a corner of the map buys you 58 seconds before the killer can hook you. All you need to do is slam the gens, the predrop a couple of god pallets, and the killer will lose 3 gens before they can even hook the first survivor chased.

Now the game is slowed down a bit, but that first pain res should be useless, so now they have a choice. Do they camp/tunnel? If so, they get 0 value from the rest of their perks. So now they have to spread pressure if they want to get value from them. But, spreading pressure now means that survivors have more time to work on the gens, so again shift+w, predrop a god pallet or 2, and you'll finish another gen or 2 before the 2nd survivor gets hooked. Now the game is effectively over.

The BETTER build yall need to worry about is Corrupt + DMS + Grim + Deadlock. Because Deadlock provides passive gen defense, and corrupt gives you early gen defense.

My personal build will likely go from what i use now:

Corrupt + Pain Res + Pop + Flex perk

To

Corrupt + Grim Embrace + DMS (until they nerf, then i'll replace with deadlock) + nowhere to hide/flex.

This will give me the best of both worlds, now that you get 8 regression events, my concern aroudn pain res + pop (and usually surge when i play m1 killers) is that i'll hit those 8 events. But with gen blocking, it doesn't matter. Nowhere to hide means now i can kick gens, get a 5% pop, and basically guarantee that i'll get some regression there, either by seeing that no survivor is there, or by finding the survivor and starting a chase quickly.

I think what you'll want to do is waste the killer's time, make sure they stay in chase for as long as possible. Pain Res, DMS and Grim Embrace all require hooks to activate, and Ultimate Weapon isn't a perk that helps in chases.

The only problem is that this relies on the map you get being a decent one, and some maps are in the worst spots they've ever been. If you get a map like Dead Dawg Saloon or Rancid Abattoir, I'm not sure there is much you can do.

What are you on about with dead dog? It has one of the most OP main buildings in the game. Sure garden of joy is the worst, and this is probably tied with asylum for 2nd. You literally shouldn't bother even going there as a killer because good survivors can waste so much of your time.

Dead Dawg is way too small, it has far too many weak loops, deadzones and a nerfed shack.

Sure, the main building is good. But the rest isn't.

Unlikely, as DMS and Grim overlap, making those perks redundant

The amount of time that saves is less than being able to pop a different gen.

They dont. You just UW after the 12 seconds when they hop back on gens.

It's not quite that bad, though it can be pretty bad. Grim Embrace doesn't trigger until the killer moves away from the hook and DMS has its own timer. So DMS could in theory add extra 14 seconds of lockdown to GE (which would be absurdly powerful), but it will usually be under 10 seconds (just very powerful). That might not be too different as many survivors on gens will start running when they trigger UW anyway.

Just to cover the math: DMS timer starts with the hook of 30 seconds. GE triggers when the killer is 16 m away from the hook, so that is ~4 seconds. Count to 12 in your head from that point, then open a locker. Except if you do it right away many survivors won't have gotten back on gens yet, so you'll trigger UW without DMS. Then you'll have to move around to trigger it on the gens that are farther away from where you opened the locker.

Is it still really powerful? Yes. Especially if you aren't going for pain res on the first hook but the second, that way you increase the likelihood of a second good DMS. But I think DMS is gilding the lily of the build, the other three perks would be oppressive all on their own. Alternatively you could just run UW and DMS right now, they are a pretty powerful combo on their own (basically game breaking on a map like midwich).

Oh, players will still somehow manage to lose with builds like that. But yes, it will be next to impossible if you're competent. I would throw Deadlock on instead of UW. I really don't know why this has to exist on live at all before nerfing it. We have nearly 8 years of prior knowledge with this type of thing. We have Eruption which just happened less than 2 years ago. It's not new math.

much like with old eruption/cob/overcharge it's not impossible but you'd have to extremely bad to manage to lose with so much time on your side

Have you not played games at high MMR? It's pretty much expected that the killer will lose 2-3 gens in the first chase against a decently competent team.

I'm guessing you play mostly solo queue as survivor so you don't see it that often. But its pretty common against killers who aren't nurse/blight/spirit and to an extent wesker/chucky.

It'll be changed soon anyway. The devs are already saying they will monitor this and - although for a few weeks it may be a problem, they'll probably change either of the perks or make them non-combatable.

I wouldn't worry about it, but in the meantime I'd say the best counter is actually the fact the Killer has practically put all their eggs in a gen slowdown build. Ultimate Weapon can be dealt with, but Ultimate Weapon finding Survivors is one thing; knocking them down is another. I don't see much in the way of a Perk helping with this, and if the Killer isn't good enough, then no amount of Perks is going to help anyway.

The last thing this game need right now is more playstyles that are boring and oppressive.

vs good looper and efficient pre-running team, it is the norm. Sometimes the play is stealth instead of pre-run. that build will allow killer to comeback vs good teams but the issue with that build is how unfun it is to play against gen-blocking perks as survivor.

Against a SWF? I'm mixed on it. A good SWF can deny hooks a lot and negate 3/4 perks for a long time.

Against uncoordinated SoloQ? Yeah they're not going to survive very well.

I think it should just prioritize activating GE until that perk is exhausted, then DMS can be activated after hook or at second hook of anyone who was already hooked and activated the first part of GE. Oh and also make the scream from UW not interrupt gen repair.