the same mistake 4 times in a row, (yes, it´s about hillbilly´s cooldown again)
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Imagine if it was a Bubba, though. He would have downed you in less than 5 seconds. You still managed to buy yourself 25-ish seconds. In a dead zone. You ran away from an area that was a lot safer (main building) and towards a pallet gym that had no pallet anymore. Every other insta down killer would killed you faster in that situation.
He missed 3 times. Was that avoidable? Yes. Did he manage to avoid it? No. You still had more counterplay against him, then you would have had against a Myers, Ghostface, Oni or Bubba. With a different killer dodging wouldn't even have been an option. With Billy it is. Even experienced Billy players miss chainsaws. You can't avoid that other than not using it.
I struggle to see how this is a problem. Why were you healing in a dead zone to begin with? You should know better (and I'm pretty sure you do). Especially against a killer with high mobility and an insta down. The first thing you do in that situation is to get the hell out of there somewhere, where:
1) the killer won't know you're there
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2) you have something to work with, if you are found.
It's pretty natural that he would come back after all. He knew that at least 2 survivors (unhooker and unhooked) had to be there. That's free info for a high mobility killer and an easy chance to hook the same survivor twice.
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Skill issue... no seriously its a skill issue...you put yourself into that situation by healing against an insta down in a dead zone. Lets also not forget that its 37% harder to hit directly hit people because of the hit box change.
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It's funny how the community constantly insults the developers, but when it's about ´´MY CHARACTER >:(´´ they try to look for any kind of opportunity to say how bad you are and that you should never say anything again, and well, that´s what is happening here, same thing happened when they nerfed spirit iri addon, when they nerfed the nurse, when they buffed the wraith etc
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It's comical for sure. I'm currently having a 'constructive' argument with a person about how Xeno was fine before the nerfs. Their reasoning is as follows: "survivors could avoid the tail just fine before. They could fake windows or use debris to avoid it and while the cooldown on it wasn't long, it was long enough for them to make distance. They could still get to another safe spot, they just had to not run on auto pilot.
Now the cooldown is so long that if you miss a tail, you might as well give up on that chase. The fact that the missed tail cooldown applies when destroying a turret is also absurd. It means that as soon a survivor takes you to a zone with a turret, you've got 2 choices, lose your power or lose the chase. Unless they make a colossal misplay, there's no in-between."
I really don't know how you could be more biased just because it is 'your killer'.
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ok "if he bumps i maybe have distance to go to main building" this is how I know YOU don't know billy CDs. Judging by his animations alone he was only running Tmix which is a 0.3 second reduction to the cooldown. That ~0.6 extra second of distance would NOT have made a difference considering the first actual saw attempt on you he hit a wall which doesn't get reduces by Tmix.
Also a 5% increase on charge speed is HARDLY anything considered "pseudo insta saw" TRUE insta saw was the charge addons and old tinkerer and even then after tinkerer was reworked insta saw was FAR below 2 second charge where the 5% you get from overdrive only shaves off 0.125 seconds of charge time.
My point still stands that the issue in the clip wasn't recovery addons. It was your teams poor positioning.
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you´re obviously not reading my comments, his second chainsaw run he bumped in the green random circle, it was enough time to the survivor (me) run away to a safe loop, and you´re not considering the fact that billy mooves at 2.1 m/s after canceling the chainsaw, and moves at 0.0ms when he bumps, but when he jusr CANCELS his chainsaw, he can move, the cooldown is smaller, no bumps happened at 0:03
pseudo insta saw, i´m talking about the speed he recovers to iniciate another chainsaw sprint, i´m talking about how he can stop running and basically 2 seconds after he can (while moving) already turn on his chainsaw, the 5% is fine, pay attention
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"Just take a ta..."
wait uhhh....
Just dont get spotted bro.
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i´m sorry friend, what?
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Nvm guess you werent around for Sadako 2.0 defenders.
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oh i see, ´´just take a tape´´ haha
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watch both of them, you see how many times i can make a bad play without the survivor (bot) actually being able to run away? i´ll play two matches of hillbilly to showing the irrelevance of missing a chainsaw
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It WOULD have been enough time to run to a safe loop if you weren't in a dead zone. Judging by tile after the pallet wall there was no way you were making it there if there even was a pallet there without taking a hit. Once again the recovery addons did little there and recovery or not you ran back towards the deadzone cause he zoned you which happened regardless of recovery addons.
Both players could have done things better but saying recovery addons need a nerf when both of you could have done better is silly. Maybe if you had a better example.
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well, thank you for agreeing with me
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I didnt agree with anything. You example of "why recovery addons should be nerfed" is just not a good example. And I dont think they even need to be nerfed.
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so you don´t accept that his cooldown is a bit overtunned because i was healing under hook, ok then, i can´t change your vision about him 🤷♂️
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100% agreed, his Cooldown is way too good. I play a lot of Billy and while I totally like how smooth he feels, I 100% get not punished enough for missing Chainsaws.
Back then before Billy was nerfed there were two things which were problematic:
- Chargetime
- Cooldown
And they brought the Cooldown back. At the very least the Recovery Add Ons should be nerfed or outright removed.
That people just focus on where the healing/reset was done just shows that they dont have actual arguments why the Cooldown is good as it is. This is like saying that old BPNs were balanced, you just looked at the wrong Gen before the Survivor was able to use it.
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Bro thinks Billy needs to sit in a corner and pout after missing a chainsaw
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Agreed.
why does every killer main want every killer to be S-Tier, when S-Tier shouldn’t even exist. B-Tier is where most killers should be. Not D-Tier and not S-Tier.
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