I think Bubba needs a few tweaks...

ays12151
ays12151 Member Posts: 678
edited February 2024 in Feedback and Suggestions

Not gonna lie, Bubba needs buffs. At least BHVR should bring back his old acceleration code on his Chainsaw Sweep - that's the first thing. Also Cannibal needs faster movement speed during his Chainsaw Sweep. Playing without Beast's Marks is kinda painfull. And 60% of his addons are useless or nerf his Power basically...

I don't want a rework or something - he just needs some little tweaks in his numbers and maybe a few interesting addons. I believe adding his best addons base kit wouldn't make him even A tier Killer so...

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  • ArkInk
    ArkInk Member Posts: 1,105

    He is too reliant on Beast Marks imo, a light numbers buff wouldn't hurt.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,965

    It would be nice to see at least the yellow Chili base kit. For speed I'm not sure. I do pretty much alright even without it but I'm not an expert.

    For a bunch of his other addons, it is definitely true that they aren't great.

  • Paternalpark
    Paternalpark Member Posts: 663

    Bubba needs lower class addons to be useful and probably primer bulb or chili basekit.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    Without speed on slightly higher level Bubba is very weak...

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,965

    Are suggesting I might not be a top 0.1% Bubba player? Because if so, then you are definitely correct. 😄

    I can do a few basics (mostly powered by Chili) but I'm not a pro player.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513
    edited February 2024

    Bubba design was intended to create that effect where the killer "just misses you". They made this killer originally because dev thought it would be exciting for survivor chases to included a big scary chainsaw sprint where your running forward and the killer just misses you creating that big epic moment of escape.

    That is why bubba had 1 charge originally. The irony is this design is that after rework, if your good at bubba, you create opposite effect where.... the killer just hits you on very last sweep on every single chainsaw. For me, that last part never gets old. It is very satisfying to perfectly time the chainsaw sweep to the very last hit.

    what would be great for bubba is for spark plug, primer blub, award winning chili, beast marks, knife scratches and Yellow chili to all be base-kit add-on so that killer is not add-on dependent. Maybe add speed limiter bloodpoint base-kit then Bubba can be played add-on less and just be nice bloodpoint killer. The add-on themselves could be converted into freddy-level add-on. There is clearly an expert that knows how to design worthless freddy meme add-on's so just ask expert to design the filler add-on's.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    Double recharge base kit would create very braindead playstyle - everyone would spam Chainsaw. Only Purple Chili & Beast's Marks at base kit and it would be amazing.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    That would be my suggest to buff Bubba (he would be B+ / A- Tier)

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  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    I don't mind Bubba getting a buff to be a bit stronger, but only if it comes with something like "hitting a survivor who just unhooked or was just unhooked ends your chainsaw." Not a full tantrum, but for everyone one person out there playing Bubba well, there's 50 that just use his power to mow down an unhooker, hit the unhooked person and catch up and mow them down in the same chainsaw.

    By all means buff his potential away from hooks, but all these suggested buffs would ALSO increase his filthy camper potential.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    Only good Bubbas can down 2 people in "unhooking" scenarios. Most of Bubbas don't know how to press Tokens properly and when they should rev the Chainsaw (even if they camp). If it would possible to add something like this to remove Chainsaw when camping, but it's hard to implement

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513
    edited February 2024

    why? dbd is trending towards hyper spam abilities like billy. The original iteration of bubba allowed him to spam chainsaw with no cooldown or any drawback. He should be partially reverted to have no cooldown or drawback similar to billy.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    Old Bubba had a massive cooldown when he just tap M2 so I couldn't even bait using his Chainsaw to get the hit on the Pallet or bait Dead Hard. Also old Bubba was garbage. He couldn;t use his Chainsaw against people who know how to run 1 circle on the loop...

    I believe that my suggestions would make Bubba still skillfull, but much stronger Killer.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,513

    he's already very skilful because even 1-2 second late usage of his chainsaw leads often leads the survivor to just make it to a pallet. there is very narrow windows of opportunity for bubba to counter shift-w play but it also matters how you zone survivor and how you pressure survivor when they enter the loop. this is hard to describe but a lot of bubba's play relies of peer pressure for survivor to make a mistake in the chase.

    my guess is that if you buff bubba, he will take less skill to play because you won't need to be as sharp at measuring distances for his chainsaw to be effective. His skill-ceiling will lower and skill-floor will lower. great accessibility to his power-level.

  • ays12151
    ays12151 Member Posts: 678

    I main Leatherface since 2019 and I know what do you mean. But look at it... If you give 5 Tokens and 2x faster recharge for average player - it will be the same Bubba's level as pre-buff - trust me... If we look at higher level - Bubba needs the best addons to compete against stronger Survivors and that is true - sadly... In my opinion Bubba is one of the hardest Killers to play as on higher level.

    If you play Bubba without Beast's Marks - you can not do much... and that's true. I just see it after 2-3k hours on him...

    His biggest problems right now:

    1) very bad acceleration code during the Chainsaw Sweep (shadow nerf patch 4.4.0)

    2) 60-70% of his addons are useless or pretty bad

    3) he NEEDS addons to compete against slightly better Survivors

    4) he has too many bugs and one of them is gamebreaking (tantrum bug)

    To fix it I suggested my changes and these changes would fix his acceleration, his addons, he would be stront at base kit (like Billy right now) and that's it.