BHVR just hates survivors atp

What build are you playing with?

I was thinking about new build to try

Honestly, i was not going for anything in particular and just played for the first 80hours. Then Malenia became a brick wall and i changed my strategy. Pushed all those levels into vigor and dex. Then i beat her with a +10 Halo-sithe. Took a good amount of time, but was extremely satisfying. Then i got her sword and since then im using that. Learning movesets and punishing at the right time feels amazing. Favourite bosses are currently Malenia (Phase1 NOT 2), Maliketh (whole fight), Draconic Tree sentinel and definitely Godfrey.

No magic (because i just didnt understand how to use it lol)

Otherwise, my loadout is this:

R1: Hand of Malenia

R2: Halo - sithe

R3: Eleonora´s poleblade

L: completely empty

Talismans: rotten winged insignia, shard of Alexander, Dragoncrest greatshield, Carian filigreed crest

Quick equipment: Flasks and mixture

Mixture: opaline bubble tear + cerulean hidden tear (should propably change the second tear, it rarely comes into use)

Im now sitting at the final boss. Seems fun so far. Game has been a blast.

Im sorry, i was asked.

I feel like the big difference is surviving. So much of a survivor's possible point gain is gotten right at the end when you escape. Killers point gain though isn't nearly focused on getting the kill. Killers can 2 hook everyone and still get decent points with 0 kills.

If they lower the points you get for escaping, but increase point gain for other stuff to counteract, point gain should feel abit more consistent.

Yeah, felt like I was going crazy w the posts disappearing.

haha fr, I’m not that great at them, but just really enjoy ‘em so much!

I do agree, these games don’t offer a casual mode or level of difficulty selection, n that kinda sucks. I chose Sweeper n spent a few hours just ‘stargazer farming’ a huge amount of ergo; Then leveled up Motivity, Vitality n Capacity to 20 and Technique n Advance after, little by little. By the time I reached Cathedral boss (which was freaking awesome looking, love the colors! Got stoked thinking that I beat it… then came its second form lol) my M, V, & C were all LV25, so it was much easier to battle. Plus, I was summoning a Specter for all the fights to help, or I probz wouldn’t’ve been making it past many of them.

The toughest experience for me was not being able to save my progress in a log, and then go back to a certain part if I had messed sth up. That’s always super tricky to play around. Like, every decision you make is recorded and irreversible.

Sorry it wasn’t the best experience for ya. Maybz you’ll give it another go sometime n have a better vibe w it, hopefully.

Haha I came on this post, read it and as soon as I read "killers gaslight when survivors make a statement" the killers begin to gaslight the issue, so it is already worthless to even discuss it even further.

And when you killers really think it is comparable what they did till now for the survivors with all the insane buffs they did on killer side then it is no wonder why you wont see the issue, and no wonder the most survivor mains stop playing DBD.

This game is no fun to play really as survivor. Sure sometimes there is a good or nice killer but 99% of the times it is just a bad killer, who use bad techniques to win and who has a growing advantage due to all the buffs. And yet you killers come and try to defend this with the few not really buffs since they do not help at all, because these are buffs as well? What a joke.

If you ever wonder why it got to this state in the game it is you killers who just jump in and destroy the critic, because you do not see that is not even close to be equalized. The killers ARE getting buff after buff after buff. While the survivors need to wait till they maybe will get something to even keep up. But most of the times it is worthless since 99% just play with such dirty tactics that escaping nowadays just is near impossible.

Some things we need to change. The most important is an anti-slugging change, since it is out of hand. The hatch should not be closable by the killer (Or at least the killer should have much more trouble to find it, since he is way faster and in cases of these who can just flash themselves over the map they will find it seconds after it appears.) Also the wiggeling should be changed back it is almost impossible to wiggle free especially with the killer grab perk.

But since the next gaslighting killer will tell us, why it is not good for the poor killer who has it that hard in the game, that he need to get buffs all the time, will rip my argument apart it was a waste of time to even write it.

Goes without saying that BHVR doesn't take sides for the roles in the game, the side they take is that of the game overall succeeding so they profit. Although that of course doesn't mean they always make sensible or good decisions.

While survivor gameplay has been fairly stale with few exciting things being released in terms of new toys to play with (with rare but notable exceptions, to be fair) and more perk and item nerfs than buffs, the basic survivor experience has gotten drastically better in the recent few years, which was likely a response to the years of killer improvements that came before them. It took them much longer than it should have, but with the introduction of basekit unhook Endurance, the anti-facecamp and anti-3-gen mechanics as well as the removal of hook grabs, they have addressed some of the most egregious issues survivors have had to deal with. The HUD info has also been a tangible if slight improvement. Hit validation on pallet stuns and Dead Hard is at least something, even if the hit reg system is still essentially entirely killer-sided. The implementation of disconnect penalties and bots to replace disconnected survivors have also had positive effects on the survivor experience, even if disconnects still aren't all too rare and bots far from well-coded.

Worth noting that unhook Endurance has not entirely remedied the issues with tunnelling and that more rebalancing in that regard could well be in order (and at least a Decisive Strike buff is apparently coming), that the anti-facecamp mechanic really has mostly only rid us of literal facecamping and hasn't changed too much about the balance surrounding camping in general (but the removal of hook grabs absolutely has - apart from a few specific killers, I think camping is actually in a decently balanced spot now, even if some more improvements particulalry for solo queue should probably still be made (such as showing the self-unhook meter to all survivors)), and that the anti-3-gen mechanic doesn't solve all of the pertinent issues with 3-genning having really had become a severe grievance with the release of certain killers, perks and maps. Still, things are in a much better spot now for survivors too, there are much fewer grievous gameplay frustrations to deal with.

That said, there are definitely various perplexing decisions that I would not blame people to construe as a sort of malice. Flashlight nerfs out of nowhere, nerfing COH and MFT into obscurity (the only two metagame-changing survivor perks released in years and years), most survivor perk releases being painfully lackluster, years of not addressing Blight's blatantly busted add-ons only to then still not really doing a great job of it when they finally did get around to touching them, Skull Merchant's entire existence lol, the fact that we still can't see the killer's ping, not addressing problematic add-ons such as Pinky Finger and Iridescent Head (both of which even stand to be collaterally buffed next patch), or Mother-Daughter Ring and Dried Cherry Blossom, giving Nurse a lunge range add-on, nerfing DS to begin with, the way they had overbuffed Eruption and recently Billy (although they did address Billy's major issue very quickly, which was the ridiculously short cooldown), ...

There are still quite a few things that could be improved (same for killers of course), but things aren't that rough out there for survivors either. I think one of the first things they should tackle is the matchmaking. I believe MMR can do more for the game than it is currently. But if they really can't find a functioning compromise between queue times and match quality or decide on the level of "competitiveness" they want in an average match of DbD, maybe at least trying out the concept of a casual and competitive queue could be something, with the comp queue having strict and visible MMR, loadout restrictions for SWFs, leaderboards, no map offerings (maybe even a pick-and-ban mechanic for the map), and the casual queue having no or lesser disconnect penalties, lax matchmaking either entirely random or loosely based on emblems or bloodpoints or ranks or whatever, maybe even a killswitch on the top 10 statistically most used perks on the respective sides. Alternatively, we can at least hope that future Game Modifiers will be more fun and exciting and yield more pointedly casual experiences for those fed up with how increasingly competitively-minded the main game has become.

I can say I play both, and when I play survivor my hands are sweating but when I play killer I often feel like I should go a bit easy to give them a chance. This is the first pvp game I've ever played where I feel like I should "go easy" at all, killer is probably has a bit too much advantage right now.

I currently play like 70% solo and 30% killer.

Game is chiller than it has ever been for both sides.

I just 'M1 'til done' on my generator unless I am forced to leave and have great success with a 'terrible' build.

A lot of people have trouble looking at things objectively or embracing reality.

It's truly unfortunate T_T

Welp it’s time to become a killer main. Playing killer is now easier than ever while playing survivor is just too miserable

Killer has always felt a bit boring for me personally which is why i preferred playing survivor. I used to enjoy being chased and helping teammates, but it just isn’t the same anymore. After the huntress changes and everything else i am done playing survivor, at least solo.

I’ve been playing killer recently (mostly legion, slinger, piggy and nurse) and even though im not very experienced at it, i’m getting easy 3-4ks most games against p100 survivors.. i thought playing nurse would be very difficult but turns out it’s not that bad. It’s relatively easy as i dont have to care about loops. At least it feels rewarding to make successful blink attacks and successful hits as slinger, but most of the other killers are very boring and i don’t feel good for getting downs and kills. It feels almost granted. Killer shouldn’t get 4k that often and that easily.

Where did you see killer players enjoying lights out as a survivor? It seems a bit weird since everyone was saying they just got tunneled every match for not having anti tunnel perks. I tried a few games myself hoping it would be fun and more horror-like and then just gave up on it

I would actually enjoy playing killer more if it felt more challenging and I had to sweat to get a 3 or 4k. I shouldn't have to make up arbitrary rules for myself like I'm not going to tunnel, camp or even regress gens just to make it feel more fair for the survivors.