I Like FOMO Cosmetics, Why Don't Some People?

I dont hate it but i dont like it either

Yeah, this topic’s delicately intricate.

When taking it to extremes: It’s kind of like saying everybody gets their own opportunity to have an autographed 1952 Mickey Mantle baseball card (worth $12.6mil); at their leisure. nbd

I get what you’re saying tho; it’s like someone saying, “Yeah, I was at that baseball game, when it was MM card day and he hit his 200th home run (or whatever), and after the game he actually signed the card for me!”

If you were there for the event, played the game, and got the cosmetics; or if you went to the store and purchased something that was exclusively themed to a time or an event, then you were part of that specific experience; ie. Going to a concert, buying a shirt from that tour, and then wearing it years later and someone sees you in the shirt and says, “Wow! You were actually at that show and saw them live! Awesome!”

It’s just being presented here as the certainty that no one misses out on getting that keepsake piece of memorabilia nostalgia to enjoy, regardless of when they happened to be playing DBD.

I’m happy everyone gets to enjoy what’s there without missing out on any of it.

it depents on the reason why the item is no longer to get.

if its like the anniversary stuff i can get behind it. its the birthday event you get the stuff only then. if its locked to a holyday and you can only buy it then but you can buy it again next year on that holliday im cool with it to but when they make skins and just for money reasons say after day x that skin is gone its ######### tactics to get more cash that it.

and i dont get the people defending it. i mean sure the people that defend it are probably the people who have the money to just cash in when they like something and thats okey but i dont get how so many people actualy think when they get seen with something fomo the other player will awe on there knees how cool that skin is that they can never get. that is not happening but all over diffrent games people act like that is a thing.

when i see a cool skin that is no longer available i check out where it comes from and then there are two reactions. is it (a) from an old hard challange that is no longer there because the game changed like in wow with the old challange mode sets then i resepct the player for the feat not the skin or it is (b) just not there anymore because the dev want it to be not there because they wanted to grab cash then i am mad about ######### buisness tactics but the player gets not probs from me for having money

Not everyone shares the same opinion on FOMO, its a very divisive subject. It's the same thing as there are people who hate Battle Passes or Premium Currency just on principle, whether or not there is actually a genuine reason to.

An equally valid interpretation of seasonal content is it is simply tied to the celebration of that particular season, to give people a reason to look forward to that season, and market towards that excitement, but alternatively you look at through the lens of FOMO. The truth is probably not a black or white answer regardless, but any claims people make is speculation either way.

The debate of FOMO is a similar debate to Alcoholism. How much corporate responsibility is there vs. Self responsibility, and should everyone else, who are able to appropriately assess value and control their inhibitions have something they like taken away from them for the sake of a minority who lack the capacity to manage their conditions, and how much blame should be impartedon that minority for that inability?

Depends on who you are and your own life experiences where you fall on the subject.

I think everything should be available to everyone too.

A game’s total amount of available expressive options should be part of a game’s appeal. It should be a showcase for onboarding new players.

Having so many avenues of expression locked behind a “look but don’t touch” mindset is just too cruel and pretentious.

Well..

let’s hope there won’t ever be a time limited cosmetic that OP would want but they can’t get due to real life circumstances

or let’s hope it actually happens so they understand how it’s just not that nice?

The concept of FOMO is always used to manipulate people into buying things they actually don't want. Basically, the game tells you: "Look, you can now buy XYZ skins for a limited time. Think about it, wouldn't it be nice to have them? Don't take too long though because they will disappear!"

So they try to manipulate you into making a decision before you fully thought it through. It's a cheap move to get some more cash out of customers. There have been studies that show the exact psychological effects.

The worst part is that it's not used for free content, that you would play and unlock normally (like achievements) but for monetised content.

I totally get what your saying about digital media but this is just how the world works. Corporations are and always will be revenue driven. You can either learn how to identify marketing tactics and avoid falling prey to them, or be a consumer.

bHVR is transparent with their limited time items and the like, they're not just pulling these after a week without warning. They explicitly state that things such as the Attack on Titan set are limited time, there's no dishonesty anywhere. There is nothing inherently unethical about FOMO unless it's manipulative and not transparent.

Because it is gatekeeping.

The value of your skin does not decrease just because someone else has it. Someone else having it, does not take anything away from you. All you are doing with these types of things is creating a sense of superiority over others because "i have it and you don't"

That’s the problem isn’t it? That sense of superiority of exclusivity is the thing of value that people get from this. They do feel that the value decreases based off of other people having it.

But like you I don’t agree with it. In fact I also believe that the “superiority” shouldn’t be a thing of value in the first place when it comes to Dbd cosmetics. Developing a system like this grooms and encourages players to think and feel this away. I’m firmly against that.

There's a section within the playerbase that will be very susceptable to impulse buying. Whether this is due to a learning disability, a type of addiction, or something else, these are vulnerable adults who are easily preyed upon. As somebody who works with these people, I can attest to the vulnerabilities regarding impulse and FOMO.

There are others who - frankly - should have better control and the blame is based at least partially on their desire to buy cosmetics. Those others should have enough control not to fall into the trap.

However, what makes FOMO tactics in marketing isn't necessarily the idea of it. Seasonal FOMO happens often in fashion, for example. What makes it problematic is the knowledge vulnerable people are out there who are susceptable to this, then doing this with that knowledge. Knowing this, it could go so far as to say this is potentially ableist in nature, because they must have looked into this or heard about this after a FOMO event, but refuse to alter it in accordance.

Basically, if they did an event with limited time cosmetics that didn't need real money to pay for them and instead were rift cosmetics, that would be different because it only involves time playing. With money, it's much more problematic.

It's just a super annoying marketing tactic. Like the amazon prime deals. Like I don't want to get a subscription to a service I rarely use just to get a skin. Limited time events I get because the ones in dbd can alter how the game is actually played. But making cosmetics limited time is just "wait 11 more months or possibly never if you miss them!"

Having wants and needs is not the same as having no self control. You can't call yourself a victim for buying/doing something that was offered in good faith and mutually agreed.

Hypothetical: You go on a night out, have a bit too much to drink, an attractive lass starts flirting with you, one thing leads to another and you end up cheating on your girlfriend.

You were drunk, you have actual reasons why your judgement might be impaired, and you acted on your human impulses. Yet you are, and should still be, held accountable for your actions.

Too many people in our world today don't want to accept responsibility for their own actions, and are all too ready to place the blame on someone else. If you have a condition, such as addiction, you might have a very valid reason for having that addiction, and its unfortunate you have that struggle. However that doesn't now act as an excuse for your behaviour, and doesn't give you a free license to blame others for your problems. It is your responsibility to manage that condition.

A seasonal skin is not in the same camp as a loot box. It is there to celebrate the season. I don't think you can really accuse a company of exploiting their customers to buying a product, when that product comes back every year.

Now there have been cosmetics that have been limited edition that haven't come back. These have more credit to saying they are exploiting FOMO. I don't see a problem with these either, because I understand that all of this online purchasing is stuff we don't actually own anyway. It is ultimately a waste of money. However I buy those cosmetics because want something cool and unique for my characters, and because I like to support game developers for games I like.

Why people have to assume it is a tactic of exploiting people with a hoarder mental illness, and not a service provided to people like me who just want to support the developer, I don't know... but its up to you how you want to look at FOMO I guess.

I hold the same opinion as OP, but only for items that can be earned for free.

Even CLUB PENGUIN had exclusive badges and party hats to celebrate each anniversary! You had to login and go to the coffee shop or something. Just something you can show off, having supported and played the game for years. Even the devs, fog whispers and twitchers have exclusives, to show off and reminisce!

I think what's more of an issue is that BHVR's definition of "exclusive" and "time limited" is very flimsy. They have re-released many skins that were "exclusive" and "time limited" and keep on doing so. It's a spit in people's faces every time they do.

For example, the 5th anniversary crowns. If you wanted all of them, you had to play EVERY killer and ESCAPE as EVERY survivor (this was when you could have perkless survivors).

And all of a sudden, they just gave people a simple code to unlock all of the 5th anniversary crowns, ON THE 7TH ANNIVERSARY! Why on earth did they do that? They didn't play during that event. They didn't put in the time to get it, even if they only unlocked it on a handful of characters.

Can you think of ANY other game where the developers give away "exclusives" from past years on a whim like this?

I am happy that the 4th anniversary crowns have still not been released to everyone... although I suspect the trend will continue and that they WILL be re-released, probably this year, and again, for no good reason.

Anyway, that's my rant over.