The Thompson House (Coldwind Farm)

The size of the map is ok

However, there are many loops, sometimes very strong, connected to each other, close to the killer shack and close to the main building

Filler loops could be removed around the strongest loops

The main house can be rough for killers, and the gen that spawns up there sometimes can be difficult to defend. One of the areas next to the house can waste alot of time in a chase since there is a pallet between the house and a jungle gym. The other side of the house is not very remarkable but has the cow tree, tractor and shack which can be run pretty well. The dead zone in the middle can be nice for catching people out though and overall the map feels pretty easy to navigate

I said fairly balanced but I agree with another poster that loops that connect into the Shack need to be toned down a little.

too much of this map is usually spent running around shack. because there is no other loops to do.

Keep Coldwind maps as daytime maps as it looks way better now with it's TCM vibe compared to before.

Maps way too dead in the middle and too strong near shack. Main buildings also a pain, witnessed a deathslinger absolutely go through hell yesterday on this map.

Good for you, and everyone i know don't want night time coldwind back, i myself refuse to go back to looking at some ugly slapped on piss filter because people are too blinded by nostalgia to let go of it.

Your suggestion on different times of day or a day/night cycle is (just like every single take on balance and how you think dbd should be that i've seen you make on the forum) something i completely disagree with.

Dead by Daylight is more of a saying rather than a literal meaning, the same way that dead by dawn or dead meat are nothing more than sayings rather than literal meanings.

I would say balanced map overall, but kinda RNG-prone especially in the areas to the left and right of the main building. Those areas vary a lot in terms of strength and it has a pretty significant impact on which side has an advantage on this map, especially because there are often more generators on that side of the map than on the shack side (ie. generator distribution is often a little uneven). The corner of the map furthest away from the building and shack (closest to the harvester) is also very often a deadzone or has at most 1 filler pallet, maybe consider adding an extra pallet loop there.

The main building I think is fine in terms of strength, except for the upstairs hook being kinda easy to defend since the killer can just stand on the stairs (defending the only way to get up there) and it doesn't allow the survivor to unhook themselves. So like if it's a Bubba just standing there on the stairs then you pretty much can't do anything.

Yea I'll give you that, but I still hope we get day/night versions of every map in the future. I doubt we will, but I'll keep the faith.

While i'm not generally onboard with day/night versions of maps, it's the option that i would be mostly fine with should it happen.

I just hope they don't bring back the god awful yellow filter should we ever get a night time variant again, it was my biggest gripe with the old Coldwind maps, the same way the old filters for MacMillan and Autohaven was my biggest gripes with those maps, i still wish they would tone down the green on current Autohaven.

This is probably close to the most balanced farm map, but it has some issues. The 2 main issues are that it is too large/the gen spread is too wide for a killer without mobility to handle, and that RNG variations allows for some very strong chained set ups, like a god filler connected to a jungle gym window to spawn. The main building is definitely fairly balanced though. Add more playable tiles so it isn't mostly resource management gameplay in chase.

After the recent-ish Coldwinds nerfs, many of them really can be rather barren, with a reduced amount of pallets overall and with the incredibly unsafe new corn filler pallets taking away good pallet spawns. Thompson House is the most problematic of them, for a few reasons:

The main building doesn't have anything survivors can actually play. Its downstairs window is a guaranteed hit at latest once the breakable wall is broken, and the upstairs windows often also are a guaranteed hit. Survivors can use main to abuse distance and to try and lose the killer, but that's about it. The hook featured upstairs in main is a huge design flaw. Not only can killers defend this hook way too easily, but they can even outright physically deny the possibility of unhooking altogether, by bodyblocking the staircase.

The bottom side of the map is almost only corn. With a bit of luck you get a decent setup of a haybale filler and jungle gym leading to shack, but not only can this also only be a mere LT wall without the filler spawning, but the other bottom corner is literally just corn and one of those new Coldwind fillers. If cowtree spawns things are a little more playable, but even that is merely one tile in isolation, at latest once its pallet inevitably gets used you still only find death down here. And of course, if the combine harvester spawns instead of cowtree you are just stranded. Especially since the harvester has been nerfed so many times that it now provides no real outplay potential for survivors.

My suggestions would be to move the main building to one corner of the upper side, making it less possible for survivors to abuse distance from one corner to the other around the main or to find safety on each side of it, but making its windows a little more safe as a trade-off (an interesting way to do this for the drop-down window could be to add a small projecting roof that survivors vault onto from it, such that they are not immediately forced to drop down upon vaulting; this would create more of a game between the survivor and killer, with the latter trying to bait the former into jumping down). You can also have one pallet spawn in main, perhaps an unsafe pallet upstairs. Move the hook from upstairs main downstairs, maybe to the porch. With the new space created by this move of the main building, you can then have fixed spawns for both combine harvester and cowtree, with the harvester spawning in the middle of the corn and cowtree spawning all the way in the lower left corner. This makes it so cowtree cannot reliably be chained to other tiles, but serves as a safety pocket. Increase the safety of the corn fillers a bit. As the upper sides won't be separated by main anymore, you would have to remove at least 1 possible maze and 1 filler tile spawn so as to make sure there won't be too dense a tile setup in that upper corner. Combine harvester at the very least should be changed to enable survivors to jump onto the offshoot-side haybale from the ramp again.

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You know why we even still have a green tint on Autohaven? It's because people was still really hung up over the removal of the blue tint on MacMillan for it's rework and this is the result of bhvr listening to that feedback, it is not the only time something like that has happened based on outrage feedback.

Another example is the new Survivor movement and how it's turning locomotion was removed because people couldn't either moonwalk anymore or spin the killer as easily despite the fact that by comparison, there were virtually no difference in terms of turning speed as well as it making Survivor movement look much more smoother and up to date, in fact you can find more people nowadays saying how they want it back, in fact i've seen more people being vocal nowadays about how they miss the now removed locomotion.

Another example is chase music, while this one is more subjective, it is still a case in point as for every chase music that is replaced, you'll have half of the community on the forum, youtube, twitter, etc. saying how they miss that version.

It's quite frankly become routine with this community, first they want something gone and then they want it back.

It seems we might agree on some things after all. Yeah the sharper blue light in the bathroom is the only thing really missing from the map, that and if Tobin Bell's voice would play on the Jigsaw tv screen in the workshop part of the map when you approach it and tells you ''I wanna play a game.''

It's removal however i don't think it has anything to do with the coding, i think it's more likely to have been toned down due to people's feedback, but that's just my guess.

For me the only thing i hate about coldwin realm is that i can't really see any aura and it's very annoying and i miss this map being at night how it was before

Much like Ormond, there is a design flaw in main building where one hook can spawn on the top floor where the killer can bodyblock to deny an unhook entirely. This needs to be re-examined immediately. The middle of the map is a deadzone with either 1 weak filler or a bunch of corn which does not help either side.

The most killer sided map in the game, and look at the votes LMFAO

these polls are doing nothing

the pallets all connect into each other is my point and killer has no way to shorten the chase because pallet design is safe.

The tractor is rng component to the map. I am sure the map can spawn a cowtree on top side which connects shack. 1, 11 and 12 has no resources because there is breakable wall window in the house in that direction.

Exactly what i was referring to with the Survivor turn locomotion being removed, it simply just showcases that bhvr should not listen to people during the PTB and wait longer before making changes as it's clearly not enough time for people to get used to it.

However like i wrote in my previous post, i've seen more people in favor of wanting it back than previously, if there is enough support for it's return, then they will re-implement that part of the updated animation so that we're not stuck with a purposefully half-finished overhaul.

After all, if bhvr is willing to bend the knee over things such as reverting killer reworks & changing ptb chase tracks, then there's no reason they wouldn't revert this as well if given enough public demand for it.

Also i'm not entirely sure if it's true, but i've seen some people say that the FOV slider makes it impossible for Survivors to spin the killer now, which if true means there is even less reason to not bring the Survivor turn locomotion back.

I like the current version of Thompson house very much! Nice size, loops, deadzones not too big but still there, main looks visually ‚appealing‘, not too much corn but it’s there and is more than just noticeable

Coldwind Farms is far and above my least favorite realm to play on. As a R/G colourblind player I can't see a thing on these maps. Auras? Only if I'm next to a maze tile and have the wood saving my eyesight. Scratchmarks? What are those? They're the same colour as the ground so they're literally invisible. Please do something, the colourblind filters you put in after Almo embarrassed you by talking about them are awful and don't work and they make already unfun maps even worse to play on.

This is the most bearable Coldwind map to play on. It's not fun on either side still, but it's the Coldwind map that least reminds me of being kicked in the ballsack.

Main building isn't crazy strong, but it's fun enough to play.. absolutely reasonable. Shack is tucked away in a corner that can often be avoided which is nice. The middle of the map is a deadzone which sucks as survivor if you have to cross it but unless the killer has pressure pushing you across it you can avoid the center of the map.

same as other farm maps... seeing in corn is terrible, specially on console. and worse for killer because it's first person.

at least this has less corn. but the giant nothing zone in the middle is awful

Only real problems with the map are the shack corner which can be difficult for some killers to work around, while alot of the rest of the map is kind of a dead zone for survivor. I'd like to see that corner made a little weaker while the filler areas of the map with weak tiles are made a little stronger. That's pretty much it imo.

I like corn very much and that map have a lot of it

I wish main was stronger and the map smaller. That's it.