More lgbt representation

Activision & Call of Duty be watchin'...

Example being David my friend didn’t like it cause they chose the one character that doesn’t look like a gay man he thought it would be Dwight or another character but not David. It feels they just retconned his story just to say he was gay all along! It’s like what happened to Ice man in X-Men

That's entirely the point. To dispel stereotypes, show that not every gay person is flaming, that people you know can be gay, and that gay people can have histories.

A new character that's 'made to be gay' would be just that, the token gay character, their whole existence would revolve around their sexuality. David was absolutely a great choice for LGBT+ inclusion.

Isn’t it canon that the game utilizes the multiverse for characters, and subsequently all characters are lesbian/gay/straight/transsexual /bisexual/queer/questioning/intersex/pansexual/two-spirited/asexual depending on the version you look at?

Hell isn’t all fanfic is canon, only being constrained by IRL IP rights should it try to expand into detestable areas? The Observers Tower is literally full of stories of alternate realities.

These are certainly things that could be explored in tome stories, likely not clinging too hard to the characters themselves, but moreso exploring the hardships and relatable experiences for persons of said sexualities.

Generally speaking the characterization of Killers is that they've fixated on something which holds them in a destructive cycle, for themselves, others, or both. Which, while individually gratifying, generally speaking isn't societally beneficial.

An LGBTQQIS2AP+ Killer that kills out of spite for being separated from society just reinforces the idea that they are separate from society, which, while that individual is given their backstory, what they represent is not separated from society. The thing is that the majority of people view things from a surface level, so they'll just latch onto "LGBTQQIS2AP+ is out to kill us". Even if taken light-heartedly, is ripe for subtle bias when spread across a wide audience.

I understand that 'for the greater purpose of representation', putting a spotlight of someone in the LGBTQ+ doing inhumane things is a negative thing, however, if we go off the assumption that people only look at things at a surface level, having only Survivors be represented this way leads a narrative that those in the LGBTQ+ are and can only be victims that do no wrong. That no matter what they do, they can only keep running.

I understand that representation in all aspects is important, but saying they can't be vindictive, vengeful or malicious just makes the narrative 'we can't be evil/bad', which then enforces the Us vs Them argument.

In the Netflix Resident Evil (God I hated this show), Evelyn Marcus, who was a Lesbian, was a major antagonist of the show. She was business focused and willing to kill both workers and her own son to save her own ass, not to mention her drugging her own wife so she wouldn't leave her. Evelyn was evil, she lacked basic empathy and was selfish to the point it destroyed those around her. Even though she was LGBTQ+, she didn't represent the whole movement, and having her be the way she was, was a new take on antagonists, as being LGBTQ+ is most commonly a trait found in the victims of stories. It showed that being a Lesbian or other doesn't free you from being a bad person. What makes you a bad person is you as a character. She wasn't defined by her sexuality, at a stretch, she showed that you can be more than your sexuality. Despite the show being god awful (Wesker looking like Blade comes to mind), Evelyn showed that your actions speak more about you as a person than your sex/gender/sexuality/etc.

Even Gus Fring from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul is Gay, and he was a right piece of work.

The story I proposed, spins a tale of someone who, rather than trying to stop the cycle of hatred, is taken in by it and wants to control it. Why try and be better than them, when you can drag them screaming to hell? A take on 'the monster you created'. The idea being that, rather than judge someone on their identity/sex/gender/etc, you judge them on their actions, and a killer will always be a killer, regardless.

But if the overall community feel that having a killer be LGBTQ+, in any way, is an area that is too volatile to consider and aren't willing to take the risk, then fair enough. But that is my take, it could be narratively very interesting.

Can you imagine getting chased by a Female Hillbilly or Nemesis or Freddie

That's where writing flawed Survivors is important, EG: Yun-Jin Lee. It's not that Survivors are Good, and Killers are Bad, it's that Survivors are capable of moving on past negativity, and Killers let it seep into them.

Surface level, you're right, a PRIDEful Killer character can work, it's a game. The problem with your suggestion though is the motivation: a PRIDE character gets shunned and takes it out on, I would assume, non-PRIDE people regardless of their involvement, essentially becoming that which tormented them: hatred against those different from them.

You could say that the Killer is justified, and only Killed those that harmed them. But then they wouldn't be a Killer. They'd be a vigilante. A Killer character isn't just someone that simply killed someone, otherwise Bill Overbeck would be a great candidate. They're an embodiment of the darker sides of humanity we're all capable of, that can overcome us, and can be overcome with teamwork or determination.

I wouldn't say behavior needs to throw in more pride stuff just to keep up adding in pride stuff.

The small nods and they have and the character they made gay is all cool already for it. No need to continuously bring attention to it.

I think the pace they are doing is alright personally .

Many gay men look just like David LOL; sexuality doesn't have a "look" and not all gay men are feminine.

That could be potentially awesome, skin-wise lots of possibility for different looks. Same with a trans character and rich story potential, like in the game Tell Me Why.

Representation is really hard to get right though*, and I don't want it to be a vector for harrassment like the Claudette mask.

* Look at the hatestorm that third episode of The Last of Us triggered, when you dare to depict two non-stereotypical gay men that challenge people's comfortable biases.

Ow didn't do it better they started with a cast of ~20 characters then overtime just slotted them into what representation they wanted at the time with no care for what the current characters lore, backstory, or interactions up to that point they just wanted a representation "win" some of the newer stuff is a bit better about it but frankly they stink at it and don't do it right.

Dbd on the other hand does it much better by grass roots building out a characters lore or making a new character that happens to be part of that representation rather what blizzard does of caricature representation with no thought behind it or complexity to the rest of the character, then retroactively change it or cover up what they initially were to make it seem like that was their plan all along.

Don't ask for it to be rapid fire because then it won't be done well which is worse than not doing it at all