Torment Creek (Coldwind Farm)

I think this is a fairly balanced map, especially by Coldwind standards. The map is a good size and the main building isn't too strong for either side; rather both sides have to be careful and aware of the generator there. If the gen gets completed, that can hurt the killer since it's in a fairly open spot, while if the killer defends it, that can be an important gen that can be a pain for survivors to complete later on.

Loops are spaced out enough and not overly obnoxious, dead zones aren't too common and good map knowledge should keep you out of the few that there are!

This map is quite long with a lot of very strong set ups. Some killers can have a decent time, but the main building god window, even with the door broken, is fun for no one and the majority of resources being insanely strong creates boring gameplay. It promotes the play-style of just eating pallets to get them out of the way instead of having actual interactive gameplay. Although there are some mid-strength pallets against the walls of main they can just be dropped and looped on the long(main) side or chain it until the killer is forced to break.

On the survivor side this map can form some pretty tight 3gens around main, but with the 8 regression events I don’t see it being too much of issue.

Tone wise it feels highly secluded. Very middle of nowhere vibes.

Torment Creek is a survivor favored map that carries problems from its realm and has a massive size that makes the generators hard to defend. Unlike its realm mates, this map has no fillers tiles that are exclusively corn tiles (where only a few weak filler loops spawn), making where most of those spawn partially unpredictable. The vast size of the map and its low pallet count produce very awkward deadzones around the map.

Coldwind Farm always had a very unique ruleset for its mazetiles, having both consistency and good distribution. Ever since the patch 6.6.0 (hidden mazetile RNG change that affected over 20 maps), Torment Creek would always have 2 jungle gyms (classic pallet & window mazetile), 1 pallet gym (classic pallet only mazetile) and 1 LT (classic double window mazetile); if main is located North, one of the jungle gyms would be placed at the pair of mazetiles on East side and the other at the pair on West side, granting the map with good distribution of safety. Unfortunately, the last Coldwind Farm update ruined this ruleset and now the good distribution is not assured and there is a huge disparity in strength given that now you can have a second LT spawn, randomly removing one jungle gym so one trial can have 2 jungle gyms and another can have only 1.

The realm Coldwind Farm is known for having very strong safety yet not a very high amount of pallets, favoring skilled survivors over killers since the limited amount of safety is enough to excel but the less skilled survivors can be at a frustrating disadvantage. This unfair and unfun gameplay loop is enabled by the filler loops, their low amount yet overwhelming safety grant the survivors too few loops to play with and don't allow the killer to outplay most of them (unless their chase power does). All the haybale filler loops are safe and some even trick the killer into attempting mindgames when the survivor can see them over the loop (but the killer can't see the survivor). The plank focused fillers overall lean more towards semi safe except for one that is excessively large with a tractor on one side and a very large L shaped long side (this loop is absurdly safe). The new corn located fillers are unsafe but they dont weaken Torment Creek at all since they aren't replacing other loops and instead add on top. The road fillers are still very safe loops.

The realm Coldwind Farm should receive nerfs to the strong fillers while increasing the pallet density to compensate (and therefore make the gameplay more interactive with more loops for the survivors to use yet more room for the killer to outplay them).

The map Torment Creek should recover its old mazetile ruleset or one similar to it, in order to increase the consistency and distribution of safety. The size of the map should be reduced to give the killer a better chance to defend the generators and the amount of mazetiles should remain as 4, no less than that.

I like this map for the most part but it’s just a tiny bit too big. There are often areas near the edges of the map that don’t have much going on in them (especially around the edges behind the killer shack), maybe some of that extra space could be cut out.

There could also be another filler loop in the area near the main building that’s often a large deadzone (shouldn’t be a strong loop though since it’s near the building).

Maybe one of the cornfield should have no corn

A map that spawn 5 pallets ...survivor sided

LMFAO

This map has like 4 good tiles for survivors and absolutely nothing else going for it besides it's size.

Oh, it's got a harvester and maybe a hill too :)

This map is truly a hold W simulator after 5 minutes have passed because there's literally nothing to use besides the 4 windows that spawn halfway across the map from each other.

Map is good. Same as what i said before I feel increasing pallets and lowering their strength is always good much like the new map in the PTB

I don't know why, but thinking about the Coldwind maps properly has me realising that, while most of them feel relatively balanced, I still despise playing on them more than most maps. Corn sucks.

This map favours pc. Because I cannot see anything in corn on console

Similar to Cowshed, map feels much better now. Honestly the only real issue with the map is Coldwind's shared problem of difficulty with seeing, primarily auras.

This map is surprisingly well balanced. The main building (the silo wreckage) is very balanced, as it relies on pallets that can be destroyed and a window by a breakable wall. The shack always spawns on the opposite side of the map as the main building, so it can't be chained together with the main building. It also takes time to get from shack to another loop, so survivors have to play shack well. The jungle gyms that spawn are small and reliant on survivors playing them right.

The generators are spread out pretty fairly, and are almost always near a structure that can be used for a chase. The only exception is the generators in the corn, but this is fair because the corn acts as a line of sight blocker, so this is a tradeoff.

Overall, I'd actually say this is one of the most balanced maps in the game, as well as one of the most fun maps in the game for both sides. I've had great, memorable games on this map as both survivor and killer.

Pretty balanced overall. The main building window is sometimes annoying with strong pallet spawns. Could use more lockers for Dredge though.

My very favourite coldwind farm. Nailed distribution of tiles and corn

What's great about Torment Creek:

• The corn fields are smaller.
• Great line of sight blocking from a lot of thin but tall structures
• Good size for a map methinks.

What's bad about Torment Creel:

• The main building's lack of line of sight blocking prevents any mind gaming or stealthy approach.
• Killers are forced to break the wall near the window and/or eat the several strong pallets surrounding it.
• The realm's unique loops, tractors, are frustrating and unintuitive for newer killers. Not sure why this is seen as a good thing for skill expression when I consistently see decent killers struggle on it.
• Cow tree. Weak killers hate it, strong killers get mildly annoyed by it.

Suggested changes:

• Make one of main building's walls not have gaps to allow mind games.
• Take away some of the strong pallets spawn directly outside of an already strong main building.
• Just let killers walk around the tractor platform without the gap. Survivors with Balanced Landing are gonna love this loop anyway.
• Make cowtree's window area slightly less wide and make the tree itself wider so M1 killers can at least mindgame it with a line of sight blocker instead of being forced to break pallet the second it drops.