How do you feel about today's upcoming update? (7.6.0)
Killer changes :
- I rarely play hag but the buffs to me don't really seem like much.
- Pig change honestly i am not feeling too good about. I feel like removal of jigsaw box auras will make her feel 1 dimensional but im willing to try her.
- I know the huntress buffs are controversial but i honestly hate playing as her, so i want them, i'm hoping maybe i'll enjoy her more with these changes.
- Clown buffs seem great. He should be more fun from having to reload less and invigorate should hopefully feel more effective.
- Doctor buffs are good but i saw in bug reports that the range change was bugged so i hope it's working for live release.
- I don't know what to think about blight add-ons constantly being changed. He's too hard to play for me.
- Mangled update, i do not like. I think i am probably never gonna use those add-ons and sloppy butcher again. 25% reduced heal for 60-90 seconds i think just sucks and there are far more reliable things to use.
The Chapter :
- I really like sable ward and how her perks have turned out. I probably won't use wicked weaves much but i think the change made it much better. Wicked perk for the 20 second aura is amazing and the basement unhook is a bonus. Strength in shadows i liked using.
- Unknown i think will be a good killer strength wise. I just wish that placing hallucinations was a bit more intuitive but maybe i'll get used to it. Unforeseen and unbound are great perks. Undone i'm probably not gonna use due to it relying on survivors failing skill checks. Also, i still find this killer very disturbing, which i like.
- Greenville square is probably my favourite looking map and it felt fine to play on as well.
- Overall theming of the chapter i think is really cool and i think it's the best original chapter in years.
Other
- Option to disable copyrighted music, i am happy they listened to the feedback about it being attached to anonymous mode and have now separated it. I will most likely be buying some iron maiden cosmetics with this change.
- Bloodweb improvements are good but i wish it could be faster. Like, you can decide how much bp you want to auto spend on someone and it does that all at once instantly. But i'll take what i can get and this is good.
Overall i think it's a good update, but i think some of it is bad. I will definitely be watching the livestream and i hope BHVR continues to do them.
Comments
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Clown buffs are great and thank god pinky finger is gutted that add-on sucks to play against.
Chapter itself is great. Invocation is way too weak for the fully broken condition though. Unknown is cool and i love hiss power design. Greenville look run of the mill in terms of maps
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The usual. Killers get a lot of nice stuff, Survivors get thrown a bone with an attractive Survivor.
But at least there is something to do in the game again for me, even if it is only P9ing Unknown and Sable.
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Tbh the 2 basement perks are actually pretty alright. Weaving spiders is laughable though
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I agree about invocation. Broken with grunts of pain and blood pools is very difficult to deal with, it's not like no mither where you have those injured benefits. For that reason no mither is actually probably the best perk to pair it with.
I'm surprised you think Greenville looks average. Personally the movie theater main building to me feels distinctly modern compared to other maps in DBD which i like.
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It is certainly better than the PTB. I think Pig and Huntress shouldn't have been changed, but at least some of the feedback was taken into consideration.
At first I didn't really like the new chapter, but I've changed my mind. I am looking forward to playing it.
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honestly forgot hag was getting changes...
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I dont know, I think the Healing Perk is worse than Self Care, because you will have to spend time to go into the Basement and go back from it. While with Self Care (which is already not good), you can heal anywhere you like. In the end you will not have much time saved and it is more risky (not only being in the Basement, but going to the Basement makes it more likely that you get seen).
And the Unhook-Perk... I think it is too situational. The Basement is not really impactful anymore, even less with Scourge Hooks in every Build nowadays. So your first Hook will most likely be on a Scourge Hook and the Killer will not spend the extra time to get you into the Basement, even if no Scourge Hook is available. And on second Hook the Perk does not work anymore.
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Looking forward to the pig changes, they essentially made my 2 qol add-ons base kit in this patch. Removal of jigsaw auras isn't a big deal, but then again I'm also in the camp that the hat change they tested was fine too. If you're using the hats for guaranteed kills instead of slowdown, that's clearly not how they intend it to be used.
Huntress changes honestly feel like someone missed a memo. This feels like 'well, go ahead and buff huntress to make her better against MfT', but the guy working on the huntress part didn't get told MfT was deleted from the game.
Invocations could be cool in concept, maybe, but the base mechanic is hilariously bad. Two minutes of being afk in the basement is far too restrictive on its own, let alone the permanently broken state at the end. If this is the base line for invocations, they're just dead on arrival. They'll be used for adept only, and even then you shouldn't try to activate the perk, just equip it and pretend it's an empty slot.
(Which doesn't even touch on the fact that for all that investment, weaving spiders now exactly undoes the base kit nerf to gen speed from 6.1 that added those 10 charges to begin with)
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I am of a similar stance. Cautiously optimistic about the changes i've seen bar from a few.
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I think the main point of wicked is the 20 second aura reveal after unhook, which is confirmed to work on every hook not just basement. The basement self unhook i think is just an added bonus that will rarely happen.
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I’m honestly more excited for the changes to existing killers than I am about the new chapter. I like Sable and she has interesting perks, but Unknown isn’t really the killer for me I don’t think. I’m not saying he’s badly designed or anything, his design is fine, he’s just not my type is all. And he only has 1 good perk imo (Unforeseen).
I’m still mildly annoyed that Huntress is getting buffed, but the rest of the killer changes seem promising especially since they reverted the portion of the Pig nerf that was the primary issue. I’m very excited for the Clown buffs in particular, he felt so much nicer to play on the PTB and 6 bottles is a significant improvement. The faster yellow cloud activation is good too - it’s one of those things that seems relatively minor on paper at first, but it’s actually kinda a big deal.
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It is the best approach, especially for recent patches.
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The killer looks lame, the power seems annoying, the perks are meh, the survivor is niche, her perks are trash, just the map looks nice. Killers get partly unreasonable buffs survivor get nothing.
Does not seem to be anything to be happy about as survivor.
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I’m just looking forward to O N E addon change I’m getting on killer and that’s it
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It's good for killer side.
So I'll keep ignoring survivor role thanks.
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From what I heard the perk allows self-unhook on the second hook if it's in the basement. Did they change that?
That makes the perk slightly more valuable. Still not great, but better than useless. The aura reading is potentially super strong
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Perk definitely does not work on second hook. A dev explicitly said that somewhere i think it was just an assumption/misconception that it would
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Another week as a survivor in a new patch to help killers.
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I think the nade launcher is too oppressive, but giving survivors a way to easily self heal again really reduces killer pressure (which is why self healing was nerfed before). Also, map wide BNP is ridiculously strong, but perma being broken...not quite sure yet if the cost is enough to pay for that. Some people do want to be injured especially with resilience. Gens already fly too fast, so BNP on all gens is kind of silly. That being said, I LOVE the idea of alternative ways to accomplish goals.
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I rarely play hag but the buffs to me don't really seem like much.
Nobody plays Hag, but those like me who do will stomp the living hell out of people. She is now without a doubt very solid A tier, maybe even higher.
Pig change honestly i am not feeling too good about. I feel like removal of jigsaw box auras will make her feel 1 dimensional but im willing to try her.
Pig strong buff, goes to solid B tier. Her chase will become very powerful from what i have experienced from PTB. And they even reverted a nerf from PTB. Questionable descission. But i guess killer cried loud enough again.
I know the huntress buffs are controversial but i honestly hate playing as her, so i want them, i'm hoping maybe i'll enjoy her more with these changes.
Cracked Huntress will be now even more cracked. And bad Huntress can get dows quicker. Another Hold-you-hand buff.
Clown buffs seem great. He should be more fun from having to reload less and invigorate should hopefully feel more effective.
Very significant buff, his slow mobility weakness will be mostly gone. Overall, maybe okayish, but also not really needed.
Doctor buffs are good but i saw in bug reports that the range change was bugged so i hope it's working for live release.
Doctor can now maybe use different addons apart from Discipline. Very solid buff, now even stronger in chase and outside. I love playing against and as the Doctor, i hope this update wont change that to much.
Mangled update, i do not like. I think i am probably never gonna use those add-ons and sloppy butcher again. 25% reduced heal for 60-90 seconds i think just sucks and there are far more reliable things to use.
Dont give a damn tbh. Meaningless change overall. Never used the mangled status, never cared.
The Chapter :
Strong killer, but i doubt he will become very popular. Was expecting so much more from the Teaser. Got baited.
Overall mediocre killer perks. Survivor perks wont change much as well.
Map is to big but looks cool.
Overall pretty bad new chapter.
Overall i think it's a good update, but i think some of it is bad. I will definitely be watching the livestream and i hope BHVR continues to do them.
Since i am seeking for challange and play both roles equaly, leaning towards killer, i dislike the update. Its just another step into the wrong direction, surpassing the 60% killrate mark and further. But i am not surprised at all. AT LEAST they reverted the absolutly rediculous, completely braindead, unspeakable nonsense movement speed buff on Huntress.
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Blight's genuine immunity from any meaningful nerf lasting a decent amount of time is genuinely mind-boggling.
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Nah, only on first Hook. Was written in the PTB-Feedback Section (which I cannot link, since it is not available anymore).
They also said that "Unhook attempts" will be succesful on Discord. And you dont get Unhook Attempts in second stage.
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Ah ok then. Yeah in that case its just a mediocre aura reading perk lol
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Yeah. And even then, if I want to see the Aura of the Killer I would probably rather run Fogwise or Alert.
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its only situational always remember it could take you 20 sec to get to basement or 40 if you dont know where its at.
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Not knowing where it is is kind of moot within the first few minutes of the match. As for the 20 seconds, the same could have been said about getting to a boon of healing, and even that was deemed too oppressive against killers for their self heal capabilities.
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Blight has plot armour
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If they reverted Huntress this would basically be a near perfect chapter imo
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There's one part of Amanda's Letter addon that I'm just not processing or understanding it right.
•Auras of Survivors removing a Reverse Bear Trap are revealed to you for 6 seconds
Is it saying their aura is revealed while they're interacting with a box to remove the trap or their aura revealed after the trap gets taken off?
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Sables perks are mediocre at best and i'm ignoring invocations which feels more like a killer perk than a survivor perk. Graphic design and sound design is fine, they always get that right. Power/perk design is crap, as usual.
Still no solution for rampant tunneling so matches have just been constant tunneling so far, 5 out 5 games with it.
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I think you mean amanda's secret but
It's always been that when the survivor removes the trap their aura gets revealed. So when they complete a search and then their trap comes off.
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I got a trap on 3 survivors of course they didn't do gens but I couldn't patrol boxes because 1 out of 900 pigs camped them so i had to run around the map looking for boxes and before I could find one they all got their traps off no capitalising on survivor mistakes my bad also her ambush still does nothing to survivors with more than 1 IQ point
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plot armour so genuine i had to say it twice, apparently.
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CoH requires travel time true enough but that was somewhat mitigated by the fact that old CoH allowed the entire team to heal at will. This basement selfcare isn’t comparable to that for obvious reasons. If you’re gonna judge it against something, judge it against Selfcare, the more analogous perk.
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Thanks did meant Amanda's Secret. Sometimes they word things that just throws me off 😒 instead of just listing only what was change they list everything that the add on does which I find completely unnecessary.
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Someone high up on the dev team 100% plays Blight.
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We need to try out the new Z-Block-Addon, which gives us Killer Instinct after completing a teleport.
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Yes, we do!
Finally an add-on that is actually useful. It has been way too long without one.
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I love Sable and the new map. But the star of the show for me so far has been Wicked. How much I like it has suprised me. Seeing the Killer's aura for 20 seconds is a decently strong effect and I think it would really compliment a full aura build.
But the other two perks, I've not been able to get any value so far. Would be handy if Strength in Shadows could show the aura of the basement hooks when injured, because so far all it's done is make me realise that I don't know where the basement is on most maps in the game.
I've only tried the Survivor side so far. I did buy the chapter, but I won't be trying out the killer in public matches for at least a week yet. I know some Surviors will already be sick of seeing him. I can't comment on any of the Killer buffs yet (not seen Huntress or Pig etc).
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Killer is okay, I think they’ll have a high skill cap, Unforeseen is a SUPER FUN perk, getting lots of grabs off gens.
Also new survivor is cute.
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