Eyrie of Crows (Forsaken Boneyard)

Since the rework I feel like this is one of the more balanced maps. But main can still be survivor sided especially upperstairs but also the long outer walls which may be annoying. Worst are obviously wiggle out swfs so something that addresses this would be nice.

this map would definitely also improve greatly with better fog (offerings can create weird results here) and more atmospheric lighting and depth of field as it feels very open.

The size is much better now since it's first rework. The backside of the mainbuilding makes the map also more better in size. However, the map is still good for survivors because the map has many good pallets/loops that connect often very well. The mainbuilding is also quite troublesome for many killers. Lastly, the map is very bright wich hurts the eyes when playing on it and it makes many stealth strategies nearly impossible. Another issue are the bushes on this map because their hitboxes are very huge/cumsy/big/high and this feel so bad because it hurts killers such as Leatherface, Hillbilly, and Mastermind the most - you bump into the bushes due to bad design.

Tl:tr the amount of pallets and their spawns should be looked at and reduced, mainbuilding needs some tweaks and and the hitboxes of the bushes need to be better.

The Coldwinds have the same problem imo.

As many already said the map is too bright. I generally like the sand theme and often feel reminded of an Egyptian pyramid setting, would actually appreciate a map with pyramid or tomb setting, but please no claustrophobic indoor map... But alas I digress...

The main issues of the map are the sheer amount of really safe loops. The middle section of the map offers so many strong loops, if a survivor knows what he is doing he will keep you there the whole game long. Some of them are even interconnectable. The rework lessened some it's problems but it is still not enough.

Aside from maybe 2-3 pallets (behind main building, the coffin loop on the right side of main) I don't think the map has really weak or even balanced loops, most of them are just really good loops with one really safe side. Maybe mix them up and create more balanced/weak loops and less of the super strong ones in the middle?

Now to stuff that is just frustrating, the collision on some of the rocks or tree branches is just ridiculous, your chainsaw bumps into them, your m1 lunge bumps into them, but you can freely move through them??? How is that even a thing??

The collision really needs some adjustment.

So in summon:

- balance out some of the loops and overall strength of the setup the map provides

- fix collision of tree branches and rocks

- maybe make the lighting a bit darker?

For the last point... Besides the coldwind maps most maps are really dark oftentimes even too dark, but this one is on the opposite side of the spectrum, so bright it almost hurts the eyes...

Eyrie still leans a bit towards survivor I think mainly because it has a lot of safe loops, but it is a lot better than the original version. Most notably, the first rework fixed the size issue the map had previously, the size of the map is fine now.

While I feel this map offers too much safety to survivors overall, I feel like the main building is a bit poorly designed, specifically the upstairs. There is 1 god pallet upstairs (can appear in one of two places), but after that there's only a window upstairs (which becomes useless after breaking the wall so it's only usable one time) so running upstairs I find often gets survivors killed more often than not once they use the pallet because then they have to drop down and usually get hit unless they have Balanced Landing. So the upstairs often ends up wasting a lot of the killer's time once, but then it becomes useless for survivors which just feels kinda bad for both sides overall.

Boon totems upstairs can be annoying for the killer though since they are time consuming to put out, very similar to the Ironworks building totems.

The downstairs building windows are fine imo. The window on the left is still a good resource even after kicking the breakable wall, but that's fine. It's not like it's extremely powerful.

Boil Over is still problematic in the main building if hook RNG is good for survivors, the ideal strategy is running to the corner upstairs where the window is and with the right hook RNG the killer can't hook you in time, often the closest upstairs hook will be on the other side and it's not reachable. On the other hand the upstairs hooks are mostly just an annoyance, in most games they do nothing and just use up scourge hook spawns that effectively go to waste, or in the event the killer actually hooks someone up there, it can be very difficult to get a rescue if the killer sticks around. I genuinely think Boil Over should just be reworked so we can get rid of upstairs building hooks because almost all of them have this problem of being too strong for camping.

The area directly to the right of the building also only has 1 hook sometimes, if that hook gets destroyed on sacrifice, any other survivors who go down near that corner often can't be hooked.

The rest of the map has a lot of safe loops and doesn't really have enough opportunities for the killer to mindgame. Especially the pallets in the middle of the map being very strong, it makes it very easy to chain safe loops together around that area.

So with that in mind, things I'd like to see change on this map:

1) Redesign the upstairs of the main building (or possibly even get rid of it and add something else downstairs for survivors to play on), maybe put a hook downstairs inside the building if the upstairs still exists. The unsafe pallet behind the main building could also be a little stronger.

2) Weaken some of the loops away from the building (especially the ones in the middle of the map).

3) Improve collision on certain assets, especially the twigs. It's very easy for attacks to get stuck on these things.

4) Improve hook distribution in general.

I think this map has been so balanced since the changes. I dont have problems with it.

This map is far too survivor-sided.

The main building is extremely strong, with two windows and breakable walls that force the killer to break them, which feels awful. Breakable walls in general do, but the ones you HAVE to break if you want even to have a chance are worse.

The second floor of the main building serves as nothing but a complete time-waster; the gameplay up there is not engaging, and survivors only go there because they know the killer has to commit a lot of time if they want to chase.

The loops in the middle are completely boring for both sides because you can see the killer at all times, leaving no room for mind games. Looping in one of the middle loops comes down to holding W for both sides until the killer has enough bloodlust to get a hit. There's no deeper interaction or possibility for mind games, moonwalks, double-backs, etc.

The map is WAY too bright. It's awful playing it late at night because it's as if the sun is shining right in your eyes. Not only that, but when survivors bring fog offerings, the map looks horrible and it's impossible to see anything past 2 meters, and this is highly abusable by SWFs.

Overall, it's a really unpleasant map to play. It's too survivor-sided, so as a killer, it's hard to have fun, and as a survivor, each loop plays the same, so it's not as enjoyable either.

I love this map for the visibility it provides. I can follow blood and scratches without any difficulty. Granted, this has downsides for trapper and hag. It’s a little lacking in spooky factor but I enjoy it regardless, giving a nice palette cleanser from the doom and gloom.

Definitely better than the first version. Still Survivor sided though.

Really well done map and balanced map. Atmosphere feels great and only room of improvement would be a change in a mist color to something more like a dust storm. I feel obligate to tell about weird collisions in some places too.

Since this map was updated with the layout being changed and overall size being shrunk, it feels better to play on. However, that's not saying much as the center of the map is filled with safe pallets that are incredibly boring to loop and chain together. All of that could be forgiven if the map wasn't so awful to look at. The lighting is terrible and doesn't fit the mood of the game. Daytime lighting does not work on this map, nor many that have them with few exception like Dead Dawg Saloon. Please stop making maps that are bright as heck, especially when the map's color palette is muddy earth tones. Just make the map be at night time and turn down the brightness. I hate being sent to this map because of the awful lighting and boring gameplay that comes from this map.