The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
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Is this a bannable build?
I want to use a build with Wraith, where I use his addon to create a terror radius and insidious with Iron grasp, Agitation, and Distressing. So basically my plan would be to bodyblock the basement with insidious and absolutely ######### the minds of survivors by blocking the basement. Is this bannable? I really want to do it but I'm pretty sure I'll get banned for holding the game hostage.
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It's absolutely bannable
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If they are hooked down there then no, its not bannable, it does become bannable when you lock in survivors on their feet.
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Insidious will still hide your TR when cloaked with the add-on.
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Wait legit? So I can just sit there and block them in the basement while they're hooked?
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That's the point. Wait do you mean they wont hear it in the first place?
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It’s only bannable if you hold the Survivors down in the basement hostage by not ending the game. :)
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Unfortunately, yes. They dont count PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM UNHOOKING AS INTENDED, as body blocking. Somehow. In some twisted logic.
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Logic is simple: "Does the killer body blocking prevent the game from ending (barring disconnects)?"
If yes: Bannable
If no: Not bannable
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Yes, thats holding the game hostage (unless you bodyblock after hooking them in the basement)
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Preventing team from being able to unhook.
Is it preventing intended game mechanics?
Is it not akin to face camping to prevent the unhook?
It's literally preventing the other 3 from even ATTEMPTING to unhook. Its bullshit and we all know it.
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blocking the basement stairs is not bannable, as long as they are hooked down there
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Why should the killer be unable to prevent the survivors from unhooking? Is the killer not supposed to be a threat?
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They are, but did they not put in 360 hooks because blocking unhooking was not intended? Because it prevented any attempt?
A killer can defend the hook. But giving 0 attempt is bs.
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Indeed. Arguably, the basement is different, since it's meant to be more dangerous, but the point remains - why should you, as a survivor, be able to ignore the killer as a threat?
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I never said you should ignore the killer as a threat? I said that bodyblocking the basement so that they cant even go for an unhook is a bullshot strategy. That should be bannable. Simply because someone is hooked doesnt change that standing still is preventing 3 other people from playing the game to its fullest by being able to save teammates. If they get hit on their attempt, that's fair.
But my point as originally stated remains. It's stopping the game, for any amount of time. They gave 360 hooks to prevent the exact thing on hooks. The fact that they're standing atop the stairs and not on the hook doesnt change that its preventing gameplay.
It should be bannable.
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You are, in essence, ignoring the killer as a threat since you're saying that the killer should not be able to stop you from doing what you want to do (unhook). In a balanced asymmetrical game, the power role should be able to stop any one element of the numbers role from doing any one thing. They should be threatening enough that the elements of the numbers role feel that what they want to do is not possible, and thus change their attitudes.
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You're ignoring everything I'm saying. The killer should be threatening. But not game breaking. Standing still in a doorway for X seconds simply because you know they cant get by isnt a threat. It's a cop out.
So like I said before, its bullshit, basically the same as old face camping, and should absolutely be bannable.
I'm done with this one. You're usually pretty intelligent and are everything being said, but you're on one track of "killer should be able to break game because it's the power role" rn.
Bye <3
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As others already mentioned, the line is pretty clear.
Block the stairs is legal to wait out BT or any similar effects or to prevent people from going down to hook.
Because this is NOT "taking the game hostage". It does not prevent the game from ending.
Only trapping healthy survivor in the basement, so that they have no chance to leave for an infinite amount of time is "taking the game hostage".
Anything else is fair game.
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No this is in no way shape or form bannable. The only circumstance where it is bannable is if you block the stairs with someone in there that is not dying. Ie the only way for the survivor to leave the game is by disconnecting. Blocking the stairs is legitimate if you want to wait out borrowed time, ensure the person(s) in the basement dies on hook, ensure a Reverse Bear Trap goes off, etc.
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Bullshit or not it shouldn't be bannable for the same reason face camping shouldn't be bannable. Specifically besides hacking you should never EVER be able to be banned for optimal play. Since optimal play is both situational and often unpredictable it isn't plausible to say for sure if something is optimal or not without a rigorous proof. Body blocking without a follow up is provably not optimal because even in the best case scenario you would never win ever after an indefinite amount of time.
Face camping however is only sub optimal because it can be capitalized on. If you are somehow in a situation where it can't be capitalized on (such as 2 players hooked in the basement at the same time) then it suddenly becomes the right move.
The solution to problems like these is never under any circumstances banning no matter how bullshit and broken the mechanic is. If someone has found a trick that instantly hooks all 4 survivors with no counter play then the solution isn't a ban. Instead the solution is a balance patch. If there is a bullshit strategy then the solution is to make it impossible to attempt or to make it unlikely to succeed. If a bullshit strategy is also a losing one then what would be a broken game instead becomes a learning experience that tends towards fun and interesting gameplay
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They'll be able to Lightburn you.
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No such build, but the body blocking is the issue.
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Pretty simple
If someone is hooked in the basement you can body block to prevent someone getting in to unhook - this fine. it's just annoying for the person on the hook. it's kinda a hard face camp.
If someone is hooked in the basement and someone made it down there to get the unhook or someone freed themselve and you bodyblock permanently, so they can't leave - not meaning bodyblocking in order to hit them - then you can be banned!
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Wraith face camps himself in the mirror on the weekend, it's his natural state.
All Wraiths should be allowed to face camp / body block hooked survivors in basements till their hearts content.
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Preventing the team from unhooking =/= preventing the game from ending. The devs draw the line at preventing the game from ending, it would seem.
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I'm pretty sure OP's scenario is different because OP is using his build to simply trap Survivors and make them think something is wrong because there is nothing in the way but they can't leave. That would be preventing the game from ending, would it not?
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I saw tags statement and it lead me to answer the question with a YES
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It doesn't stop the game... what?.... you have to be fairly new... if this situation ever comes about survivors simply have to hold 1 button to counter the playstyle... -----> game still progressing
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Only if you go an extended period of time. Beyond 5 minutes of blocking them in is excessive imo. Because you aren't furthering the game and could possibly be reported for griefing.
Simply camping with Insidious is a playstyle and is not bannable. In fact, i so rarely see Insidious being used if i get hooked by someone using it all i can do is clap and get a cup of coffee.
Being able to block the hook/face camp isn't bannable. In fact, actually denying someone an unsafe unhook in this way is pretty skillful considering all the angles you can be unhooked from now. I love doing this with windows and the survivor panics because they can't hardly see me.
Remember, if you are right up on Wraith, you can hear him breathing. So they'll know whats going on and possibly record and report it if you exceed a considerable amount of time.
Coxcombe Clapper + The Beast "Soot" addons make for some hilarious gameplay, as using Distressing already messes with survivors. Not being able to see you or hear you uncloak makes for some really fun games. I need to test "The Ghost" addon with The Beast and see if your terror radius disappears when you uncloak because that would be a real mind #########.
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I think he's applying that he's preventing an unhook by blocking the basement. I could be wrong tho.
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No it isn't bannable, but it's toxic and scummy af.
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There is no twisted logic, or double standard involved. Bodyblocking is legit, it does not count towards holding the game hostage nor does survivor blocking hooks count as griefing.
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