Discord Private BP farm groups.
So I've seen a video about a specific Discord server that basically sets rules for survivor/killer collaboration to farm the maximum amount of BP per hour. Without going into too much detail they basically run through a set list of things they do to get max points in each category before finishing the game off in like 10 mins. They basically rinse and repeat this process over and over until they have achieved whatever BP goal they have in mind.
These groups were farming something silly like 500k BP per 10 min match doing this during the event.
So is this against the TOS? I thought that any kind of collaboration in a public game would be classed as against the TOS.
It honestly never ceases to amaze me how pathetic online gaming communities can be these days when it comes to abusing unintended mechanics. I get it in certain other genres of games like MMORPGs why people would do it but in a game like DBD I couldn't think of anything worse than spending countless hours playing DBD, but not actually playing DBD. Like what is the end goal? To get 5, 10 p100s? It makes zero sense to me. Even the perk grind makes zero sense. You probably use about 10-15% of the available perks currently in the game which is kinda easy to at least get P1 for each character you desire & boost your other characters for tier 3 perks.
The only reason stuff like this bothers me is because I've seen it time and time again in other games that the Devs remove the bonus or put in some kind of mechanics that is detrimental to the playerbase who plays by the rules. These people literally do not care about anyone except themselves and abusing mechanics like this is purely for personal gain in most cases at the cost of the community. They should be actively banning accounts for stuff like this if it is indeed against the TOS.
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Dude have you seen the grind that the game puts in your shoulders? I mean if anything it's impressive that they manage to find themselves in the same match, however I doubt it is against the TOS, I have never seen anyone banned for farming check it in the rules.
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Here, it's isn't against the rules because they arent griefing anybody in particular:
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Can you link the video?
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I would probably say working with the opposite team to gain an advantage would cover it tbh.
The advantage is you actually don't have to play the game in order farm BP. The most efficient way is collaboration with the opposite side.
I honestly don't care if people want to do this if it's something that won't end up penalising the community i.e they decide to remove bonus BP because people are abusing it.
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Why do you care?
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They;re talking about hens new video
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Do you know of anyone in the history of this game getting banned for it? I mean, with how many subtle cheaters and the overall harassment in endgame chat, I'm pretty sure support would prefer shifting their attention to these more important reports.
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Why do you care, stop doing big thing out od this.
They play how they want, nobody is forced to play like that, they aren't griefing, everybody has good mood playing like that and you see a problem?
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I care because when people abuse game mechanics that result in achieving things at a rate of 3-5x what the normal player would it becomes a problem for the Devs and they normally rectify the situation by nerfing it so it's not possible anymore.
Happens all the time in different games, so if it ever happens in DBD then don't say I didn't warn you.
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I mean, its only Bloodpoints. Its not like they get a meaningful competitive advantage from this.
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I mean if people end up in a group together in a match they can choose what rules they play by. If everyone is on board / knows each other than the game rules don't really apply to them since no one is going to report each other. Even if it was reportable rule breaking if they don't report it then no harm no foul no one gets in trouble.
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Exactly so why even do it. Like it's definitely not for the fun that for sure. I can't think of anything worse than fishing for the correct game and then everyone lines up in front of the killer to take turns at getting hit and healing before moving on to standing under pallets to take turns at dropping and resetting the pallets.
I'm actually still stumped to why it's even a thing in DBD tbh. Like is account selling/boosting with all perks P3 and P100s a thing in DBD? That would make sense to me if it was. There's usually a monetary motive behind things like this.
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Why do you care and what is the issue here?
I'd participate in sth like that because I'd like to do achievements in DBD or Tome challenges.
Would this game be different for you if I finish old tomes with harder tasks like "pallet-stun the killer 4 times in single match" or "be chased as "Dwight for 90 seconds and escape"? Not even talking about Evil Incarnate.
Like it's definitely not for the fun that for sure.
Maybe I just want to finish old tome archives or have more BP to get my favourite survivors to P100.
Are people with P100 any better than others? Surely not.
It doesn't affect your game at all, it isn't any advantage.
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You were the kid that took the ball home, weren't you?
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People can spend their freetime as they want. And if some people have fun to queue up into matches to maximize their BPs, it is whatever.
In the end, as long as there is no price involved, it is fine. If for example BHVR would have made a competition and the Top 10 players who got the most BPs during the event would receive some Auric Cells, THEN it would not be ok.But it is only Bloodpoints and the advantage is not really significant, if you can even call it an advantage.
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Also it could be beneficial for you if BHVR would do "collective BPs" for next event, for example if people would collect 50mil bp, then everyone would have +100% multiplier for x days.
They are happy, you are happy, where is the issue?
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You can butter it up any way you want. It's called organised win trading. The prize has no real negative effect on the majority of the player base except the excessive amount of rare & Iridescent addons you can accumulate through methods like this, but other than that it really doesn't matter about someones prestige level.
It will only become an issue if for some reason they decided to nerf BP events because of such actions or if they ever decided to implement an actual ranked MMR system. It's probably one of the main reasons we currently don't have a ranked system in place. Way too easy to exploit & a headache the Devs really don't want to get into.
Good to know a lot of you endorse these kind of exploits though & don't really care about the integrity or future of the game.
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Fun times for every survivor and killer in match > > > > > > "integrity or future of the game".
It has been like that since beginning of DBD - just create lobby late at night. Are there any negative impacts towards, as you said, "future of the game"?
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what a weird thing to get upset about and try to get banned. People like you are the reason these things stay private in the first place. They’re all mutually agreeing to do it, they’re not hurting anybody.
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They stay private because they know what they're doing is potentially breaking the TOS and they might find themselves getting punished for it or the Devs implement something to prevent it. I mean I've given two good reasons why it's potentially not good for the game but if you can't be bothered reading previous comments then that's on you.
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No, farming is currently not a bannable thing.
However, if what the video said is true where they'll leave a survivor to bleed out because they don't want to farm, that would be bannable. I imagine these groups are running in 4-mans though so it probably doesn't really apply in most cases.
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I mean considering you can stack up a huge amount of ultra rare addons during an event if you grind then that's not a massive deal. It's not like BHVR balance that much around rarity anymore.
We also have an actual ranked MMR system, every game is ranked. It's just invisible.
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How does the killer and survivors join the same lobby? An exteral tool? 🤔
Back in the old p2p days, players would change their region to South Africa to easily find eachother. But with dedicated servers...
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The part where the killer and the other survivors leave you to bleed out if you're not in on it.
I'm getting every single one of them banned from this game if that ever happens to me.
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I don't know how many people are in the group but I imagine they could brute force it with shareplay off. Especially if it's a bigger group with multiple 4-mans/killers queueing up at the same time.
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To be fair meta level 'advantages' aren't exactly something that should be brought into the equation. Should I get banned for doing something funny in front of the Killer because they might like me over the others and give me hatch? Maybe I flubbed a pallet save and stood still for 2 seconds, that is an 'advantage'. Should I be able to report my teammates for predropping pallets and creating a deadzone? They worked with the Killer to provide the Killer with an advantage (even though they may have been just trying to survive). Is giving hatch/gate in and of itself 'MMR fixing' and thus working with the opposite team for a meta advantage? The concept of an 'advantage' is too poorly defined for me to be willing to report anyone that isn't obviously griefing.
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This is not an issue. If you farm with people who want to farm and don't force people who don't want to, there is no issue. Unfair for people who have to unlock everything on a slow scale? Fix the grind, the issue isn't farmers. Selling accounts? There are already tons of cheats that give you 1000 of every offering and addon and unlock all characters at p100, you can cheat in bloodpoints and character levels, none of this matters.
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Forcing yourself to a certain server region by using a hosts file, turning off crossplay and queueing at similar times. Very easy to match with people depending on the time of day and platform.
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