NOED is now..

Can’t people just cleanse? Seriously.

For your information I dont rely on noed cos the the other half of the time I don't need to use noed so don't say we are all noed reliant. I have seen noed reliant killers but not all killers are.

"Only bad players use things they have to try to get an advantage."

10/10 logic.

Survivors sure are funny. I was accused of "camping at a distance" as the Doctor because I went to check generators, realized they weren't working on any generators, then came back to the hook (which is where they obviously were, since all the generators were at 0%). Apparently, they believed I was going to send out a shock from 40 m away and up a hill (because everyone knows the Doctor's shock therapy hits survivors on different floors), then switch to punishment, hit them instantly, and stop them from unhooking.

We could take this a step further and still say that the majority of the player base uses comms "shrugs"..... either way imo solo needs the TLC to be brought up to SWF level of play so that the killers can recieve the TLC that they need to combat SWF

:(

You cannot protect all the gens, just like you cant protect totems, if 4 survivors are physically there to do them.

Its physically impossible to be everywhere.

While doing all totems is possible, especially with only one killer to haunt survivors away.

NOED is a crutch perk, you are right.

It should be built in in the game and not in a perk.

Doing 5 gens within 3-5 minutes is perfectly do-able, the only pressure the killer has, is the fear of NOED and the insta downs from NOED.

2 extra minutes for the killer to actually do something, when the totem(s) needs to be cleansed.

But if there were no adrenaline, no self care and no exhaustion perks, the removal of NOED would be okay for me.

But as long as survivors have extremely overpowered second chance perks, NOED is needed to counter gen rush.

NOED doesnt even come near to the power of self care or sprint burst, by the way.

But now real talk, NOED on Nurse should not work.

It should deactivate inside the power of killers, just like it is done for Legion.

Add it to Small Game or Detective's Hunch and you've got yourself a deal.

A lot of killers cannot just protect gens and apply pressure to the entire map. Now don't get me wrong there are some killers that can apply really good pressure such as Nurse, Billy, Spirit, and somewhat Huntress but the Huntress relies on the map.

The killer, as one person, cannot chase and protect 3 gens at the same time and before you say "just drop the chase", what will happen then? The survivor gets away for free and will INSTANTLY work on a generator and the cycle continues with chase off gens, move away to another gen and then the survivors just tap the generator again.

On top of that, with the Adrenawin meta, if you injure survivors to apply pressure they will still run to safety nets on the map and will continue to do generators to get a free heal and sprint burst. Now I'm not saying don't run Adrenaline but with this new meta and the fact that most killers cannot chase and apply pressure to the entire map, NOED is needed for the weaker ones.

if you commit to a chase with a killer who cannot apply that much pressure, then gens will just pop and like stated previously, if you drop the chase to kick a generator, the survivor who just escaped will just tap the generator again as soon as you leave.

NOED is balanced and all you have to do is cleanse the totems, I don't get why there are so many posts about NOED when devs already stated that they have no intentions on changing NOED yet due to the perk having counters, yes you heard counters.

Honestly I'm not even opposed to this, will make some hardly used perks more useful.

NOED is fine, totems can be broken to nullify the effects of it and makes up for when survivors only ever want to do the generators and nothing else (no chests, no healing, no totems, nothing but generators) meaning the fault is all on you if it goes off.

Granted, I would not advocate for running NOED on killers like Nurse, Hillbilly, Spirit, Huntress, Hag or Myers for instance as they can establish proper pressure but for other killers like Trapper, Clown, LF, Pig or Doctor there is little they can do against decent survivors either due to RNG or simply by the fact that their power does practically nothing and cannot establish pressure very well especially for players who only want to do 5 generators into adrenaline. For killers like those 5 (4 actually since LF already has an instadown) NOED can be excused.

I personally do not find NOED as much of a threat as I stay injured for most of my matches anyways unless a teammate heals me and in some cases I'll even stay in the match knowing NOED is up.

What I would not be opposed to is a buff to either small game or detective's hunch in some form of a way instead as a way to further assist solo survivors.

Almost every single survivor is running Adrenaline now. Why shouldn't killers pack their own endgame perks?

@Arroz

first of all, i love that pic xD

made my day xD

however, id like to know how you got to the conclusion i'd be a baby killer ^^

is it because i am defending NOED? then here's the thing: currently, i am not running NOED on any of my killers, not even freddy, as i consider the perk to be simply bad. the perk has way too many downsides and counters to it than a exposed status effect could make up for.

and since my opinion on the perk is like this, i am defending it, as i fundamentally do not believe that a "meh" tier perk should recieve, yet another, nerf. the opposite is the case. i personally would like to see it getting a little buff in order to be worth using again.

NOED only works against survivors who fcked up their secondary objective, while also staying a dead perk throughout the entire game. and even then it can be taken care of, simply by cleansing the burning totem,s o it barely gives you more than one hit. imo, have the hex totem eigther be indestructable OR have all remaining totems light up would be a nice change to it. in the end, NOED completely relies on the survivors to activate in the first place, that should be enough of a reason for these buff suggestions.

Maybe you must put Small Game instead your Adrenaline, Dead Hard, Self Care or Decisive Strike of your current build.

Aww baby survivors can't cleanse totoms sad panda.

There there. Aari has got you covered

GIT GUD