Opinions On Hook Denying Gameplay

I'm curious to hear what people think about the potential that exists in a lot of maps to prevent the Killer from hooking anyone through the use of perks and comms.

This used to be a play style that Survivors in a SWF could abuse on any map, prior to the sabotage nerfs. Where they would equip No Mither, and 99 every hook so if the killer does pick them up, they can swoop in and drop it. This play style can still be abused on specific maps with an RNG on hook spawns that benefits the Survivors.

Hawkins is one of these maps. I try to keep up with Survivor channels that are popular for "bullying" and making compilations out of these moments so I'm aware of newer abusable things Survivors can potentially be doing. One such video showcased that Hawkins is a map that can be combined with perks such as No Mither, Breakout, Exponential, Flip Flop, Unbreakable and then Sabotaging hooks to make it so a Killer will never get a hook. The specifics are this:

You go up to the top of Portal Room and run right to the far corner behind the railing. The Killer has to down you and pick you up instantly to even have a chance of getting to a hook. If the RNG is bad enough, the only hook that will spawn in the area is the basement. Meaning the Killer will never make it to a hook unless they have what's known as the "backpack build". All 4 perks dedicated to carrying a Survivor around for longer than normal and getting hits on the other Survivors to extend the time and potentially get more downs, before hooking them and having more pressure straight off the hook. If the Portal Room rng is not in the Survivor favour, they can try this on the Isolation room side, by going down upstairs constantly on the side without the hook on or near the staircase, the Killer may never be able to get a hook out of it. And if neither of these options are available to the Survivors, they can try going down upstairs on the Catwalks in the rooms where the only way down is by the stairs or vaulting, and since you cannot vault while carrying, getting down a narrow staircase with Boil Over is not a great time.

Eyrie Of Crows is another map that can have a chance of providing this RNG. If the basement is in shack, then the hooks outside the building will spawn on the corners at the front and back, but on the same wall. This means once the Killer has either walked down the stairs or dropped down, the can be sabotaged. In addition, there is a spot upstairs which has a vault and a breakable wall near it, the Survivors can always go down there and the Killer will have to endure all of the perks being used against them to try and get a hook upstairs, but it will most likely be sabotaged though.

Mount Ormond Resort used to have this potential, but the addition to a hook upstairs made it so a Killer can actually get someone eventually.

Badham Preschool in the boiler room is another. If the basement is in shack, you can always go down in the middle of the boiler room and the Killer will have an awful time trying to get up the stairs and outside to a hook.

If there's other maps with potential for this, I'm sure someone knows of it. But I wanna hear what people think of this gameplay still being a viable way to play as Survivor. Making is so your opponent can never progress their objective. (The bleed out timer will become a factor if the Survivors don't do gens around this gameplay fast enough, but let's be real, they will be doing gens as well as stopping the Killer hooking). At best, in the worst rng for a Killer against these teams, they can get 1 kill through sheer force of bleeding them out. But that means they lose anyway, so it isn't a good feeling.

Do you think it should stay? Is it fine? Is it a problem that needs to be fixed?

I'm of the belief that all potential for this style of gameplay should be removed. Making it so that hooks are mandatory spawns in the upstairs areas of maps that have them. There shouldn't be areas of a map that a Survivor can go to that makes it so the Killer just wastes their time. There also shouldn't be upstairs areas that have no gameplay to them other than just going up there to get hit. It's a version of "comp corner" where you know the chase is coming to an end, so you position yourself somewhere that wastes even more of the Killers time.

EDIT: cause for concern

If this became the SWF meta, and really good players played safe with this style of gameplay, Killers would very rarely be able to get even one kill.

Let me explain further why this could be a problem if adopted by the majority of SWFs. As it is, only a handful of maps can be completely abused by this gameplay, like I said: Hawkins, Badham and Eyrie (that I know of). But if Survivors figured out a universal synergy of perks and items that allowed the majority of maps to be made abusable, then it would suddenly become a problem, right? Honestly I think that there potentially is a swf loadout that can be used to make it impossible for a Killer to ever get a hook, even a meaningful slug. And with the amount of perks that exist in the game to decrease the amount of time spent slugged (recovery perks, faster healing perks and items, endurance perks and add-ons etc) if the majority of SWFs decided that they will glue to gens, but hiding when the Killer is coming towards them before they even get close -- so they minimise the amount of time a Killer is chasing and pressuring a Survivor, and then when/if someone does go down they have perks and items and add-ons available to make it so the Killer can't hook them. I can see this being a reality at some point. With the amount of bs around the attitude about Killers short cutting their object to get kills quicker, Survivors are gonna try and stop them getting in that situation. They've already started down this path with the meta of Background Player with Flashbang/Flashlights, combined with Survivors going down in pallets on purpose when they see it's a lost cause to continue the chase (or jumping in a locker to force the Killer to pick them up out of it, locking them into the action guaranteeing the Flashbang save). And then this style of play also combined with Buckle Up and For The People too, with the potential for Boons to be used too to help the team reset if they absolutely need to. They're on the path to becoming invincible with the right minds behind it to figure it out.