Why does the hype for the new chapter seem to be quite low?

Was thinking about this earlier, seems completely flat and there are a few reasons. DnD isn't at all popular with the DBD community. I've literally never seen it asked for or wanted in comment sections on any forums. Licences that everyone seem to want are the likes of ST, Reseident Evil, Silent Hill, Last of us etc etc, DnD wouldn't be in the top 50 most wanted colabs imo, so the lack of hype is with this being a left field addition. A lot of people wanted stranger things Vecna who imo looks like the Temu equivalent of Freddy. So there is a feel of resentment that a trendy show is having a character overlooked by something less popular.

I don't know much about Vecna, but given he's some kind of Sage/Godlike wizard, he does tick a few unique boxes, although I do liken him a lot to someone like Pinhead.

Hopefully this chapter has a very fun/unique/groundbreaking mechanic which propells this chapter forward, if not, it might not be a very well received one.

So far, the only thing that has been revealed is that it is D&D related but everybody and their mother knew it was not only going to be D&D, it's presumed to be Vecna

So the trailer didn't reveal anything that we haven't already known for weeks.

Because this damn rubberbanding is making the game so bad to play that I'm struggling to care about anything DbD related.

Also I don't like D&D.

Because a lot of people don’t know much about D&D (myself included). Some people don’t see it as horror either… even though it does have horror elements. Personally I’ll probably skip it myself.

I don’t think that D&D being not that well known/liked by the DbD community is the biggest factor here.

Chapters have been less and less anticipated for quite a while now. And I think he content they bring is the problem. Survivors are just skins and mostly bring forgettable perks anyways, killers also often bring forgettable perks or those similar to old ones and the powers at this point are also too same-y to existing ones.

We need bigger gameplay changes that affect all matches IMO. (And i have been making suggestion for this kinda stuff for years now, still have plenty ideas but let’s face it - there is a bigger chance of me creating my own asymm game than BHVR considering implementing stuff that I suggest so I won’t bother anymore)

NOT just new perk classes like invocations (though the direction I do like) and also probably not only just new survivor items (that should come soon as well!!) but something to make chases more dynamic? Breakable walls were an attempt but kinda failed.‘ and since then nothing really changed..

What if the chapter isnt Dungeons and Dragons... but instead its just a collection similar to AoT or Iron Maiden where theres a sort of mini "event" for them.

DnD has a lot of potential dont get me wrong, but as some have already mentioned its sort of an odd addition to be an anniversary chapter as basically no one was asking for it.

… and yet you are still here 🤷‍♂️

Because dbd is gonna be dbd, no amount of new content can change that

I won't lie I don't think anything could've gotten me excited outside of Try To Fall Asleep, but that game hasn't even been finished yet let alone stand a chance of being an anniversary licence. After Year 8's nonstop barrage of new content and the game managing to become more and more stale monotonous and boring over the time period, it just makes me think that endlessly pumping out new content isn't what the game needs right now. I genuinely hope they reveal on the anniversary that chapter prices are doubling and they're only releasing 2 of them this year, one for anniversary and one for Halloween. Every other patch will be to fix issues the game has and that's honestly my dream at the moment.

Plus, Wizards of the Coast and Hazboro are awful, awful companies and I despise the thought of supporting them monetarily.

Well... tbh the big issue is, D&D has always had a bit of a PR issue... and recently even the fans of D&D have a bit of PR nightmare. D&D IS an awesome license for DBD, and I'm excited for it, but it's kinda hard to ignore the current PR issues surrounding it.

The way it tends to be presented in media a lot of the time is as a complicated maths and rules heavy game for reclusive and awkward nerds, who spend most of the game rules lawyering dumb little technicalities at each other. Even Stranger Things does a really bad job of presenting D&D, it just looks lame and dweeby... it was only in season 4 when they actually started to present it at least somewhat like how it actually is (if you ignore some stuff)... and how it is actually pretty cool.

So you obviously have that problem... those who dont know D&D obviously won't have that much hype... however D&D had a big surge in popularity recent years thanks to the likes of Dimension 20 and Critical Role, so while there may not be that many people who know D&D in the DBD community, there is not a shortage... and there is no shortage of content that fits very well into the DBD world.

However the other major thing working against D&D, is even for those who are fans of it, the owners of D&D (Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro) have recently tried to severely limit user content and change the licensing agreement.

Obviously D&D lives on the creativity of its players, but despite that they tried to basically capitalise on the success of any podcasts and content creators sharing their campaigns as web series or whatever by forcing them to pay percentage of their revenue for using the D&D ruleset and monsters... even though the rest of the campaign is completely the fabrication and creative skill of the dungeon master.

They have also taken away a lot of customer friendly features from services like D&D beyond, and started making it so players can no longer buy discounted portions of rulesets from different book in line with their needs, and then get that value back if they then buy the whole book... to instead only being able to buy the whole book. So now instead of spending $1.25 on a specific monster you want for your campaign, you now have to spend $30 for the book it's in, even if that's the only one.

A lot of this is currently still ongoing, and so many awesome shows have basically had to drop D&D completely to keep their stories going, which has just been a headache for everyone involved. So you now have an issue where a lot of the D&D community who would have loved this crossover are still pretty sore at the D&D owners right now... and a lot of reaction from the owners doesn't seem to have any intent to nurture any good will with its player base....

So while D&D is an awesome license for DBD... you have a mix of bad public perception for people who don't know D&D, and a current lack of good will from the people who do...

EDT: Personally I'm glad to see the crossover, the potential value to DBD is collosal... but I do hope Hasbro and WotC are bleeding money a bit and this crossover is them starting to consider untying the locks on their content to third parties.... I do hope BHVR managed to get the stronger end of the deal... 😏

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same.

I hate that they own dnd (and magic) so much rn…

D&D (or DnD as they now prefer) is very popular and I've been playing it for over 35 years, but its never been a great license. DnD is much more of a toolkit for how to play a game. While there are 'official' D&D characters and stories, no one really uses those. Most people use the system to create their own stories. Even if they do use an official story, the important characters are still the players.

So there's nothing like Laurie or Myers for players to be excited about. I'm actually curious what type of characters they'll pull together for survivor and killer. There are tons of options, but nothing that really clearly stands out. There have been lots of Dungeons and Dragons licenses, but I don't think it really translates into sales.

probably unrelated, but most people dnd online that i've played with anymore that i know do it.

I've been playing Dungeons & Dragons for nearly 10 years now. I've been a Dungeon Master through all of it, and I couldn't tell you a single thing about Vecna.

I watch Critical Role. I watch Stranger Things. I have Vecna cards in Magic the Gathering.

Doesn't matter… I still don't know a single thing about him, thats not how Dungeons & Dragons works.

I don't really know how to explain this issue other than saying that everyone plays Dungeons & Dragons differently. I could play Dungeons & Dragons for another 50 years and still know nothing about Vecna.

Difficult to get excited about the prospect of Vecna as a killer, when I don't know what that means, even as a fan of the game.

I don't know ######### about most of the lore but I'm aware of some specific things that are keeping me optimistic and bordering somewhat excited. I am keeping myself in check though.

The thing with D&D is the world and characters could do anything. It's really up to BHVR's ability to deliver on the IP with this one.

With most people though I imagine they have no idea what to even expect with this license. It's not as straight forward as very angry man with machete kills idiot trespassing on their sacred swamp.

yeah, it’s been confirmed last week with a teaser video

also, there was an interview with Mathieu Cote where he confirmed it is indeed the chapter and not just a cosmetic collection I think. Haven’t seen the interview myself though.

I'd be hyped if the map is some sort of dungeon.

Just imagine exploring an abandoned cave, dark and mysterious.

No worries. Im not really hyped for this anniversary to begin with. Not much is propably changing. The live stream will be like the last years with a lot of talking and exchanging back-pats. Cosmetics will get announced, chapter will be shown and the anniversary event is gonne be suspiciously similar to the last one.

I´d be positively suprised if anything different is gonna happen, but i dont get my hopes up.

Also, Shadow of the Erdtree is coming out in june so……

Sorry???

I'm not well-informed about D&D so I didn't have much reaction to the reveal.

Also I don't think it's as global as other licenses we have. I'm certain almost nobody knows what D&D is where I live.

They have not. My D&D days were before I got my kitty cats. Though I still have all my stuff and am trying to find a nerd store around here that does D&D cause I'd love to try to get back into it (or maybe Warhammer but I know that one is spendy...)

What is there to be excited about? I don't think it has anything to do with the license and more the assumption that people who are very in the loop regarding this game like the folks on this forum are disillusioned with BHVR's gameplay design.

The Unknown proved that even with fantastic aesthetics, buildup, and lore, the lack of creativity and innovation when it comes to new content and how it plays renders the above meaningless in the long run.

Combine this with the fact that last anniversary was plagued with horrendous latency issues that were never officially recognized and you get the resulting ambivalence.