Does distortion force the killer to play more optimally?
I've seen people say this a lot. And it happens in a fair few of my games. For example. I'm running plague with lethal and black incense. One survivor has distortion so I never really see them all game. Meanwhile I'm bouncing hooks off everyone I do see with incense+lethal. Basically causing people to die earlier and make the match easier overall. This coupled with the fact the person actually never went to do a unhook or anything themselves and were running a full stealth build. So even if I wanted to find them it woulda been a chore to do so. If they really don't wanna be found, so be it. But it probably was why they all died with 2 gens up (the distortion user died to egc because I guess they just really didn't wanna give me a hook). If they probably at least took a hook and a chase you never know how quick a match can turn.
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That's the logical consequence when 1 survivor doesn't pull their weight. They use a perk, so the killer won't find them, which means, the killer will go after any of the other 3 survivors that they can find. Most Distortion players also don't come out of hiding when they need to take a chase, so the killer has effectively 3 survivors to chase and kill. At the very best, that's a kill at 7 hooks.
Now, you can of course go out of your way and look for the Distortion player but let's be honest, most killers won't do that. You aren't obligated to do it and it's a big risk. Normally it isn't in the killer's interest to get as many hooks as possible without killing anyone (quite the opposite) and if that Distortion player doesn't come out to take a chase, then someone is going to die early.
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It's not really encouraging anything killers aren't already doing. But besides that it depends, if you rat with Distortion yeah it's a bad perk but if you're other 3 slots are devoted to gen perks it can actually be pretty effective. The other 3 survivors take chase while the Distortion player cranks gens.
Distortion/Deja/Built to Last/Streetwise can actually be pretty dirty.
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If someone is awful in chase and will only go down in less than 10 seconds, it makes sense for them to use Distortion to be fair. They'd waste far more of their team's time getting found.
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Either way, they're not pulling their weight. Also, if you use Distortion because you're bad in chase, then you won't improve. You won't learn how to loop, if you're doing everything in your power to avoid it.
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Some people are just bad in chase no matter how much practise they do. I have thousands of hours on survivor and am terrible at it.
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This is true, everyone has a skill ceiling no matter how hard they try to practice and get better. Some players are more comfortable doing other objectives knowing chases/loop might not be their strong suit.
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It kind of is… Because even those players who don't want to play "optimal" in that sense cannot find this one guy… So even they will no somewhat tunnel the remaining guys, because they simply cannot find this one person…
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Fair, but that does not really change the fact that even when they go down within seconds it is better to do that than just have other survivors dying earlier, and overall it does not improve your survival chances when you don't "pull your weight" as others already said.
In the end it is your choice what to do, but it will negatively affect your team after all…
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This is a problem that is solved by just having all 4 survivors run Distortion
Come join us anyway, our Adam's definitely get their Deliverances.
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Not really. What if the Killer does not even run any Aura Read-Perks? Would they then not be able to find any Survivor at all?
Survivors who run Distortion dont become invisible. They will still do Gens, they will still go for Saves. I had a match yesterday with Unknown and except for one Survivor, all were running Distortion. And yet the one not running Distortion was the last one who got hooked.
Sure, it can be possible that there are overly stealthy Survivors. But they can be overly stealthy without Distortion. And from my experience it happens rarely that people just stealth around until their team died and they can get the Hatch. What sometimes happens is that the Unhooker decides to hide, leaving the unhooked Survivor as the only target. But this is also not really because of Distortion, but because of a playstyle.
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I made very similar post, so i definately agree on this. Recently had match with 2 friends, where distortion random made quite a winnable match impossible to win, because he did literally nothing but stealth, when heard TR. Pretty sure, that if Distortion wasn't endless, it would be 2 man out, because killer had BBQ and all hooks were on us.
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But this is not the problem of Distortion, this is the problem of one teammate being overly stealthy. If Distortion would be removed tomorrow, the same person would just be in lockers more often.
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You would have a easier way to find them though through aura reveal of course if they didn't have a way to hide themselves. And I think distortion removes scratch marks. Not to say they can't avoid the aura reveal other ways of course. Or stealth anyway. But in the case of like bbq or something you have someone else to possibly go after or something of that nature. Obviously rat play is annoying and perks just help it happen.
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Distortion should be nerfed, because some survivors use it to excessively hide from the killer, which causes many games where the other survivors have a reduced chance of winning.
Remember that some killer perks get nerfed because of the way that SOME killers use them. For example, some killers aren't stacking regression perks, but the regression perks are getting nerfed because SOME killers are stacking 3 or 4 of them together. Likewise, Distortion should be nerfed because of the ways that SOME survivors use it.
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It's definately Distortion problem at least because it promotes this gameplay. Like supersonic said, you not always have a chance to hide yourself, lockers not always nearby and run to it every time survivor is downed… too much even for such players. Whole concept "get more stealth for being stealthy" is stupid and rewards wrong things, literally forcing killer into soft tunneling same players over and over again. I saw it from both sides so many times.
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Within reason, killers tend to run a lot of aura reading. The majority of survivors are taking Distortion as a fair counter, meanwhile a small number take it purely for immersive purposes. The players that do the latter usually get found by experienced killers anyway.
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I'd disagree, a teammate that can last longer in chase is still a lot better. If I go down immediately it forces someone off gens to come save me and offers the killer a chance to snowball. If I'm on a gen while the killer chases someone else for 30+ seconds longer, that's always gonna be better.
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Not if that guy dies after the 30 sec because he is dead on hook.. You need to realise that the longer all 4 survivors are alive the better... Because that teammate dying decreases the efficiency of the survivors far more than one mate needing to go for the unhook...
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