why is toxicity so common?
Im quite new to dbd, ive only played since january but have experienced a lot of toxicity from both sides. I think survivors being toxic to each other is the worst ( ig bc i main survivor). i always try and help my teammates the best i can and still end up being blamed in end game chat. Ive also seen other survivors be blamed for the game not going how a certain survivor would have liked. It gets very tiring, you already deal with killers being toxic every now and then which is to be expected and doesnt bother me much. But having survivors be equally as toxic because they didnt like the outcome of a match i dislike.
I never go off on someone in end game chat and if anything i blame myself for the times i die and consider how i can improve. Blaming other survivors doesnt help in improving ur or other peoples gameplay. Ive had survs sandbag me but more often than not its obviously unintentional. Idk, i dont get why some people get so worked up about a match not going perfectly.
Comments
-
Just as it is affecting society in general, blaming others is prevalent in game play as well. It's always honest people like you who are the victims like of this.
I think you can understand just by looking at this forum. It wasn't my fault, my opponent used a cowardly tactic. It is filled with such content. Eventually, its aggressive fangs will be directed at you.
There is no way to change reality. Therefore, if you meet one of the few friends, please have a nice chat.
1 -
In other games people usually tell you that you are doing something wrong before they flame you, but in dbd that option does not exist so it goes to the insults straight away...
0 -
Please name 1 game where people dont go straight to flaming
0 -
Entitlement + Immaturity + Anonymity + Grudge = Toxic PVP player
4 -
Dota 2… not everything is absolute, there are always people that try to be helpful... No matter what game I always try to give people tips when they seem to be struggling...
You really should not just assume that people only insult and trash talk and don't try to be helpful at first. Otherwise if engaging with people online only results in toxicity why do you guys even play multi-player games if everyone is always toxic anyways.
0 -
I think this game and R6 Siege may have had the worst in-game communities I've seen, with Siege being slightly more because of voice chat. I've met some really nice players here, don't get me wrong, but a majority of players are always ready to flame if you say ANYTHING at endgame chat. And I'd blame the 4v1 aspect, sadly. There's always going to be a group of survivors flaming the killer for anything they do, ganging up on them for the most part. Heck, they'll even turn on a teammate if they didn't play perfectly.
I've had many times, as killer and survivor, having to defend the other side or a specific person because a SWF started flaming them for x and y, when I witnessed otherwise.
"Feng just hid all game and opened chests" No, I chased and hooked them, twice off gens from what I saw and they probably tried to heal themselves.
"Trash Bubba tunneled me" No, I unhooked you and despite him being right there and focusing me at first, you immediately went to the gen behind him and caught his attention as I took a vault.
1 -
Well, 1st.objective is to do gen. So do it as a priority, I mean don't hurry to save a teammate, it's just the secondary objective. If you are injuried, you still can do gen before healing yourself, just be care of the location of the killer… Mainly let the others to do the saves if you are repairing a gen.
I mean, don't try to interrupt a chase with the killer (I mean to take a protection hit for your teammate for example) except if the game is lost… usually killers will be very angry if you do so and he will probably punish you first… and you can't be sure your teammates will do the same for you (to take a protection hit), so what the point ?
Take care to do not sandbag your teammates (bodyblock under pallet for example, it is easy & it happens often since the survs hitboxes are very, very gross) bc they can be very angry against you (even they can DC/give up quickly/post 'useless trash' on your steam profile & so on)…
Don't take the last save during the ending collapse because you can easily fail it alone and your teammates can trash talk easily for your attempt. Finally if you've opened the exit door, 2 possibilities: if someone close to your door is chased & you really want to help him/her (particularily if he/she is injured) you can take a hit but stay as close as you can to the exit. You will be rarely rewarded for that in the post-game chat…
Or you just can leave. If you do so, close the post-game chat because there is where the flames come from.
For all these reasons (as many others I've not mentioned here), toxicity is very common in DbD whatever BEhaviour, devs & mods community can say.
66% of the time, postchat is used for flaming… No need to open it, except if you are very curious…0 -
Im well aware there are some that try to be helpful and most people I come across in most games are chill and pretty cool to hang around with. But the moment some one starts criticizing mine or some one else's gameplay they usually arent so chill about it
I personally do remain calm and just try to sort of talk them out of it. But if they yappin, imma start packin 🗣
0 -
It is all a matter of the tone and not the content right... But depending on how big the missplay and the resulting loss I don't think it is too hard to understand that the tone will get rougher.
0 -
Yeah, and most peoples tones definitely arent the nicest. If some one screws up, so be it since lets be real, no one is going to take criticism from some random on a videogame.
Ive tried myself to give advice in endgame chat, still do from time to time but it falls on deaf ears because as whats said above. 99% of the time theyre just upset and are trying to blame it on something/some one other than themselves and theres no reasoning with those kinds of people.
0 -
Well if people are unable to take criticism when it is based on facts then that is their issue, if somebody wants to be ignorant there is not much you can do, but you cannot really blame the guy being rude about it if all he faces is ignorance on the other guys side.
0 -
I mean those who are try to "correct" other peoples gameplay were most likely doing something wrong as well, and its not like theyre open to criticism either at that point.
So yeah Imma blame em,
0 -
Just because you yourself made mistakes does not mean that the mistakes you are remarking did not happen, both sides should be open to criticism.
0 -
I mean, yeah, but again theres no reason or gain to point out some one elses mistakes.
Oh no! They didnt go for the save when they shouldve! womp womp. no need to booboo wa wa about it
0 -
This community has a serious problem with victim complexes. Ironic since this is a game about people literally being victims.
1 -
Sure such mistakes are pretty much useless to point out… But for example stuff like try to crouch demo shred or whatever… Specific plays they might not know exist… Macro mistakes only make sense when it is stuff not about timing but knowledge in general, for example not doing a specific generator at the beginning, for example main building on saloon.
0 -
4v1 PvP game, heavy Us vs Them mentality, extreme levels of entitlement from players who only ever play one side and don't know what they're talking about.
Also toxic content creators giving the community ideas on how to be as toxic as possible, because they're 7 year old brats on the inside.
3
