Can we stop the blaming please?

If you want to queue up with Survivors that gel with your own personal play style, you'd almost always be better off joining a SWF.

You'd can't expect anyone else in Solo Q to play the way that you want them to. And if escaping consistently in solo is your goal, you kind of have to bring selfish perks and play in a way to maximise your own chances of survival. BHVR have put perks into the game specifically for this kind of play style.

It's worth remembering that the MMR system does not treat this game as a team game! Only SWFs live or die as a team. Solo Q is kind of an every man for themselves deal and I think it's best to go into a trial with that in mind.

I'm happy to be a team player, but I've had Survivors complain in chat when I've tried to help out but failed and also when I've decided to prioritise my own chances of Survival. You just cannot please some people.

As long as no aura reading and all Nancy's survive ❤️

People need to accept that stealthy team mates have always existed and they always will. I just had a game now with a Nic Cage who spent the whole game hiding in the lockers. He joined in for a group heal but as soon as he heard the terror radius, he stopped and entered the locker next to us while I finished the heal. He had zero stealth perks but he still managed to be the last guy standing with less than 10k (!) bp while everyone else had 28k+. Was he infuriating to play with? Absolutely! But this is an issue of SBMM. I'm not sure how someone so scared at the hint of a terror radius was on a team with 3 competent survivors.

The fact of the matter remains that his hiding strategy was just as valid as any other strategy in the game. But likewise, I don't feel bad for leaving him to go to second stage on his first hook, because my strategy was to take advantage of his available hook states to finish my gen.

Hiding is only strong when used strategically, as long as you aren't pretty good survivors being a distraction generally does much better job

It could definitely be argued that a stealthy survivor can waste some of the killers time when they're looking for them, but it will never be as efficient or as helpful to the team as slamming gens until you're forced off by the killer, and following that up with a lengthy chase.

Not saying you're hiding the whole game, but all 4 survivors need to take chases during the trial.

As stated already, stealthing tends to skew hook distribution amongst your team, and if someone is sacrificed before the third Gen is repaired, it's almost always a guaranteed loss for the survivors.

Yesterday, several Distortion survivors have let the teammates die on hook to stay hidden.

I've found them because I was making a point going as far away as possible from the survivors on hook so they could be saved.

I've killed the hiding cowards.

Hiding is all fine but not playing as a team isn't.

Stealth can be fine, but only if the survivor doing stealth is doing generators and knows when to stop stealthing and get the attention of the killer to draw heat from the rest of the team. From my experience, people who prefer stealth fail at that last part most of the time. They'll still be stealthing when everyone else is on death hook and cost their team the game.

I think the problem is that MANY, not all who play the "stealthy" builds like distortion, calm spirit , urban evasion do tend to hide and play extremely selfishly. This is the reason why people hate those perks and this gameplay.

I admit i am not a fan of this gameplay eather. I'm a teamplayer i even die for randoms since honest to me good game is worth a death in the end if i've managed to save, heal, get some chase and do gens. I don't care about escaping every single match and i do enjoy chases. I like learning how to extend my chases and get better. So to me personally it feels weird when someone rather hides and pushes the gen jockeying and chasing to other people instead of learning and even bothering to try. The fact that many of these people wont even save from hooks is a big problem.

I do hope behaviour someday puts in that we can see other survivors perks. Sadly this will mean i might dodge a lot of these "stealth" players and self carers to avoid the possible frustation.

You are allowed to play however you want, but you also need to understand where other people are coming from who do hate these perks and gameplay. Selfish teammates and hiders are the worst, its just the sad truth.

I don't hate the perks, but distortion does need a change.

Yeah, this is what I do. I'm a total gen jockey and am happy as a clam to be puttering away on a machine, but chases are my weakest aspect. It's better for me to avoid them than to second-chance extend a 15 second chase (I get found late-game with no pallets).