Yes, Please Let's Give Survivors Even More Second Chances!

It has some counterplay. Once you hit them for a 5th time... and they are downed... you see 2 auras for x time afterwards.

And all of them are perks they should be in the game itself

Grabs are pretty broken rn, slugging was the killers best means of slowing the game down and now we should be punished for it?

Sure in that case all survivors should come with built in Borrowed Time, Self Care, and Adrenaline. Balance right?

This is my thoughts as well. Those 2 perks look broken. I can see ways to abuse them heavily.

I think this is where he totally missed it entirely.

Imo, they only sound good on paper. flip flop? Just dont slug, and most of the time people dont even do that anyway (it really isnt the best idea imo.) with mettle of man, it only props if you get hit 4 times with a basic attack- meaning huntress hatchets n ######### wont prop it (and it would really only take effect once per match.) and either way, these leaked perks might not even make it through, its about like 10 weeks early- soo much time for a lot to change.

Do you really think it will only work with normal attacks? This will probably the first mechanic for which instantdowns count as 2 attacks. Its more likely to scan the healthstate.

As for the ruin buff. Did I miss something or is it just the tier thing?

That isn't a real buff. Not like any killer mains are running Ruin 1 or 2 over 3 anyways. From time to time I actually considered that Ruin 1 or 2 might have held unintentional advantages for the killer. Ruin 3 and now all ruin force the surivors to all break off and hunt the totem(most cases). I sometimes felt like it could be a benefit if 2 people COULD do the gens while 2 people had to go search for Ruin.

It would be amazing to see the statistics if Ruin 1 or 2 lasted longer in game than 3.

Can someone please interpret the OP for me? I honestly don't know what he/she is talking about. How did survivors get more second chances again?

@Dreamnomad The upcoming survivor perks for the next DLC have been leaked accidentally by BHVR. And it's looking like these perks are even stronger than Dead Hard and the old DS. So we as a community have probably 3 months to convince BHVR that those perks can't make it into the game.

Edit: I reworded it a bit

Okay, how god damn hard is it for you people to put a reference link when you want to talk about something new? Don't just assume that every person knows what you are talking about. Here:

It wasn't all that hard. You people are losing your mind over something that isn't even a thing yet. They are decent perks, but none of them are overpowered. This isn't the second coming of decisive strike. I swear, most people on these forums have no idea how to evaluate perks.

Mettle of Men is basically a mediocre dead hard. You have to get hit 3 times in order to avoid one hit. And that doesn't somehow magically teleport you to a random point on the map. The killer is still right on your butt ready to hit you again. 9 times out of 10 you'll still go down within the next 10 seconds that this triggers. Big deal.

Flip Flop is just a silly perk to be used when trying a hook breaking strategy. Hook breaking is already a terrible strategy. This isn't the missing piece of a master strategy. This is honestly just a bad version of unbreakable. The sky is not falling! These perks will have minimal impact on the game.

No. It doesn't.

Mettle of Man- After getting hit 3 times by a killers basic attack this perk activates. Once activated, the next occasion that would put you in the dying state from the injured state is ignored. The next time you heal back to full health, your aura will be revealed to the killer when you are more than 16 meters from the killer. The perk will deactivate the next time you are put into the dying state. Higher chance of being obsession.

Like I said, you all suck at evaluating perks. You can combine this perk with whatever you want. It still isn't good. There are a lot of killers that this ability completely blanks on. Plague for instance. She pukes on you until you are broken. No basic attack at that point. Then basic attack to finish you off. If she isn't doing that, then she is using corrupt puke to injure you. Also not a basic attack. Do the math. You are dead before she basic attacks you 4 times.

She's not the only killer like that either. Any killer that can hurt you with their ability throws off the math. Any of the chainsaw killers that can one shot you, completely borks the perk. This perk only activates when you are already in the injured state. If you get hit with one shot ability then you skip that and go down. Hello NOED. Hello MYC. Hello Devour Hope.

And if, just if, you manage to avoid all of those things and get lucky and actually get one activation out of the perk. From what I read, it literally can only activate at most once then it deactivates. Then what? You avoid ONE HIT! That's it. One lousy hit. As I said before, it doesn't teleport you away from the killer. The killer is still right behind you. Even if you get the speed boost and the killer swipes their weapon like a normal hit, that is hardly a get out of jail free card.

The killer is still behind you. The killer still knows where you are. You are still injured. Most of the time the killer will still catch you. And guess what, let's say you either pull off a miracle and escape or the killer just abandons the chase. You are still screwed! The next time you are healed to full the killer can see your aura when outside 16 meter range. Good luck getting that hatch now =p So I say again, this is NOT the second coming of decisive strike. It's frankly not even that good of a perk. The majority of the time, you would be better off running Dead Hard. Sure, you can run both. Big deal. As far as exhaustion perks go, dead hard is one of the weaker ones imho.