Calling All Killers

Yeah survivor has been especially rough lately, killers seem to be taking advantage of the endurance bug which sucks.

I can't remember how we played without basekit BT tbh.

If you're gonna throw games as killer, please play Ghostface, so that the devs look at his super low kill rates that you're helping to provide and give him a buff.

I'm pretty sure any serious survivors would feel extremely bad when their opponent wasn't trying their best, so I'd make sure everyone will enjoy the game by trying as much as possible

usually i'm chill… BUT:

• if you bring a map offering i'll play unfun (aka camping and tunneling) since map offering COMPLETELY ruin part of the fun, not to mention that people who bring those offerings are most of the times tryharders that want to win at all costs
• if you bring a instaheal (anti hemorrage syringe/styptic agent) or i suspect a bnp i'll tunnel (at this point you are playing for winning and not for having fun) since i usually play with meme builds and meme addons (padded jaws, speed limiter, etc etc)
• if you start to be toxic for no reason then you'll have what you ask: my complete attention for you (i'll tunnel you to death)
• if you start using perks for anti tunneling and anti camping aganist me while i'm actually playing fair (bodyblock with basekit bt and off the record in order to deny my chase with the other survivors and strike me with ds once i knock you down, you can bet your ass that i won't stop to following you until you are out of the game)
• if you bring head on and flashlights with the purpose of bullying me i won't have mercy
• if you rush generators and won't give me the time needed to do some points, you'll force me to tunnel in order to get at least some kills
• if you constantly sabotage my hooks while i'm going to hook someone be sure that i won't be chill anymore

except in those cases i'm chill enough to play only for hooks

p.s: in case all of those conditions are met in a single time then expect deaths by bleeding out, hits on the hooks and nodding since at this point your main goal is to make the game more miserable as possible for the other people

And this is where you differ from the people in this thread that give you "negative" comments.

You may not care how you are treated when playing "nice" but in general people don't like it when they try to be nice and the feedback ends up being indifference or even hostility.

You may have been lucky here but I can tell from my experience it wasn't ever really better than what the others have said. I am also from EU (Germany).

I haven't played since July '21 and played in your proposed way during the 2 years prior to that. To give survivor a break, because complaints about tunneling and so on were numerous back then too, and to see what kind of feedback I would get.

The result were 80% indifference with no change in gameplay from survivors, meaning short matches, tagging flashlight clicking and so on.

10% were what you describe, survivor goofing off, taking consideration for me and positive feedback in chat.

10% were open hostility and toxicity in after game chat.

When 90% of all feedback don't have any positive or encouraging effect, then I don't blame anyone but the devs that this game is going downhill or is at least not improving over the years.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO incentive for killer to be nice aside from their own satisfaction from playing nice, the gas lighting and complaints from survivors.

I quit before/upon running out of "being nice" but I can tell this game will drain it from most.

Every killer game I've had tonight has been extremely negative, full of teabaggers, flashlighters, Head On + Flashbang, bully squads, it's every single game.

How about you be positive enough for the rest of us? If it's as easy as you act like it is, then you should have no problem doing so.

I love the initiative!

I’ll preface by saying as a survivor, I don’t expect or need a killer to be ‘friendly’ as long as they’re not toxic (and of course vice versa - and this is how things ‘should’ be but sadly isn’t a lot of the times).

But when I do see a friendly or funny killer - whether farming or not (so they offer me hatch for example having played the game normally until that point) I’ll always as a rule, prioritise giving myself up to be hooked or mori’d first as it shouldn’t be taken for granted that killer should be the one to give a goodwill gesture.

Similarly, if there is a killer I know who has genuinely struggled in the match, I’d want them to get points and will show them my boon and let them kill me.

Of course we have ALL suffered horrible experiences and sometimes the gestures can be thrown in your face - but surely even one person who makes these gestures can potentially have a domino cycle effect and spread some good vibes :)

I like to think if I ever player with or against (most) people on this forums, (other than probably getting killed quickly lol) I’d enjoy the match regardless of win or loss as people seem to show general courtesy at the very least and most likely can read the room well enough to not be toxic unwarranted.

Here is a screenshot of a steam conversation I had a with a killer (I’ve blurred their name out but kept my own in svreenshot).

I agree with this sentiment to a degree. It's starting to feel like Lara players are worse than Sable's. IDK how that is even possible?!

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To OP: I love the initiative, but fact of the matter is that both sides are miserable at the moment. With the amount of bugs in the game, getting instantly downed after being unhooked and killers just abusing that, still tunneling and going out of their way to make the games more miserable than before. It's the same with survivors. I played a couple of soloq games last night and almost just uninstalled the game. The number of times I died on 1st hook, got hard-tunneled, and had several matches of killers 4-man slugging until the entire timer ran out for literally no reason (no one was toxic, TB-ed or gen-rushed)…. it's worse than the Anniversary sweat, I can tell you that much.

I love to play nice as Wesker, especially if it's an RE lobby, but his bugs make it impossible to have a modicum of fun, and that's disregarding how every lobby brings 4 toolboxes 💀 oh and ofc there is the bug that has 2 gens popping at once, so fun.

EDIT: I left out the horrendous things people say in ECG, come to write on your Steam profile, or add you as a friend so they can talk BS in your DMs. IDK if it's an EU thing, but man it is everything but fun.

Wanna change, please? I mostly get sweat squads who don't know what fun is. The only ones that do are usually RE players. Like I'm not even playing as a Blighted Wesker, but with the STARS fit. Like come on he screams that he is chill 😔

I haven't been able to play but I always try to have a good fun match and to give one in return if I can. I don't enjoy straight farming so I try to mix it by playing a little wide open at the start and then slacking as the match goes on. After that I'm all game for goofiness whether I "win" by game standards or not.

As survivor it's a little harder to do but I do my best. I don't want to ruin another survivors win so I don't usually offer myself up to be hooked unless I point them out of the gate first. There are even times when they will run back in and join me to let the killer hook them as well. I will often switch from a gen to a chest or totem if the gens are just flying by with no hooks.

In my experience survivors want exact opposite than that. To me really is not point to try my best always as matchmaking is bad and puts me regularly agains't babies who I beat at 5 gens with m1 killers without even trying. So if I can make their game experience bit better that gives me more joy than just destroying them.

I do prefer balanced matches above everything else.. Which is rare, but can happen from time to time.

An experienced killer, experienced survivors, but the minority of players treating it as a game instead of as some E-Sport tournament.. Those who do will do, and there's no stopping them, so best to ignore them.

That basically means, from my side as a killer..
- Trying to avoid tunneling, unless the unhooked survivor tries to bodyblock me or I lost a sight of the healthy one while still seeing the injured one;
- Avoiding camping purely out of finding it boring; I want some action, to keep playing.. And Rin isn't actually all that good for camping, given that I don't use Save The Best For Last, afterall;
- No slugging, leaving downed survivors on the ground.. Unless there's a flashylight player in SWF, in which case I need to make sure the pick up is safe to begin with;
- Otherwise, I play as usually. Going for hooks and hits, trying to evoke fear and have the survivors run away from me, respecting me as a killer instead of teasing me and .. Knowing very well that I can't do anything about that, ahahahah..

As a survivor..
- Going for rescuing if no party is going; Thanks to Kindred, I do always know what's going on;
- Playing without items, because I do very well realize just how much the game can become unbalanced with four Brand New Parts, for example.. Otherwise, using the lowest rarities to give myself some challenge;
- Playing the game as is expected to - Doing totems if Hex: No One Escapes Death is to be expected and I have time for that, otherwise sticking for generators.. However, prioritizing first and foremost healing other survivors, as I need that for my Second Wind and Empathic Connection makes it all the easier;
- No attempts to provoke the killer by repeatedly crouching, etcetera.. (As I'm aware that this does trigger players for some reason).

Generally speaking..
- Complimenting those who deserve it, trying to build a friendly and casual focused atmosphere during the match and at the end of the match.
From time to time, people get into each other just because they play the game in a way they dislike. Like, some other day I got a few players who were trying to provoke each other, one has even resorted towards taking the game personally by replying with vulgarism.. And that's when I kind of step-in, ask them for the reasoning for such a behavior.. Because it doesn't belong there, nor does it make sense to take it onto other people.

But, to actually provide a reply to yours in the topic..

I do dislike those players like you, I really and truly do.
Don't get me wrong.
I am all for treating the game as a game and not as some kinda E-Sport tournament, but to avoid killing as a killer?
Please, I'd be bored and wouldn't wanna play. I need the killer to chase me, while providing me a chance (avoiding tunneling X slugging) to have fun, and if even that doesn't help.. Then I am solely the issue and problem that's preventing me from having fun. That's time for some other distraction from real life instead of this game, if it doesn't work out as I want it to.
So, I do want players to play the game.. Yeah.
Without taking it personally, and more or less being respectful towards each others.. Which does happen from time to time, but all that competitive mindset and competitive players do truly discourage other players from being friendly and respectful, and that's what I have a problem with. I don't wanna be part of such an environment, so I tend to avoid competition at all costs, unless it's the kind of competition to match the way the opposition treats it, but never ever starting it on my own because that'd make me feel bad for them.