Killers being mad at surviviors giving up is insane

Yeah i agree, and it is same for killer to feel annoying either, because game is almost = end when a survivor kill itself in early game.

That's the thing though, isn't it. In 2v8 if one only killer DCing, the rest is given a Bot. But that doesn't go for DCing in main mode. Once a Killer DCs game is over.

Once the game gets going, any time a Survivor DCs they given a Bot. And to be fair, that Bot is given hacks that makes it seem much of a better player than the player IRL. And if a Survivor DCing at the loading screen before game even starts, everyone is halted by a wasted waited lot of time for a trial to begin again. (Which I believe will be fixed soon, but idk)

If you go against a Bot because of DCers. What then will the fun be if these bots have Hacks that make the trial 10x harder than going against a real person?

I think most people missed the point of this as you are talking about mid to late game give ups.

Would you feel mad if killer dc with hopelessness when you guys complete 4 gens with killer only got 1-2 hooks?

I'd need a little more info on this if the killer has created lots of deadzones they still have a chance.

Would you feel mad if killer dc with hopelessness when you guys break the hex in first 10 secs of the match?

Nah, I'd understand that. I'd never quit in that circumstance as killer, but I certainly wouldn't be mad.

Ｗould you feel mad if killer dc with hopelessness when you guys do a flash save after a 2 minutes chasing?

Yeah, because that's a rage quit. I'm mad when survivors rage quit after they lose a chase as well.

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To give a different example, if gens are done and the killer opens the gates, I'm never mad about that. I just leave.

Also, OP isn't talking about DCing. He's discussing when players stop trying. In your first scenario if the killer just stood in the corner and let us finish the gens and leave, no problem. It's not what I would do, but I'm not mad about it. Same with the survivor who runs up to the killer once it's down to two survivors left.

Believe it or not, not all killers are sweaty tryhards.

Some of us just want to have fun with chases, develop our skills and play the game out normally. When a player leaves prematurely the game is basically over and players like this no longer have any interest in continuing to play out the game.

Ironically the only people you punish are the survivors who want to try to win, and the killers who try to make a game of DBD and don't play uber sweaty.

Whenever a player quits now, I basically continue to play normally up to getting two hooks on everyone. Anyone else who quits, I let them and take a third hook stage off them. Anyone who keeps trying to play (or politely asks to be let go), I'll let complete the gens and leave, or get hatch.

Quitters ruin games, and there is literally no excuse for doing so.

Even Skull Merchant, you may hate playing against her, that is a reason to quit, but it is not an excuse and has no justification.

I have more respect for someone who says "I don't care about everyone else, I hate her that much that I'm saying damn the rest of my team, I'm leaving", over someone trying to justify quitting just because it's Skull Merchant, or whatever reason they come up with.

Leave if you want, but don't try to justify it.

Anyone playing normally has a right to complain when someone decide to literally ruin the game for everyone by circumventing intended penalty, I don't get what you can't get

There are some times I totally understand giving up but it isn't just killers who get frustrated when a team mate goes next first hook or DC's on first down.

Though personally, I don't care anymore as I get it and I cant say I have not done this myself.

I do wish you had the option to just concede the match when the killer slugs for the 4k… being slugged for 4 minutes because the killer desperately wants to avoid a potential hatch escape is a bad mechanic (the hatch is the problem really) and making your players endure 4 minutes of not being able to do anything is not great.

Otherwise… meh, I have always said you cant make people play matches they don't want to play.

I guess those survivors ‘giving up’ aren’t having fun. Maybe they believe the killer tunneling them down or proxy camping their hook is ruining their fun. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Some people give up even when winning. Amount of games i had were the killer gets their first hook and 1 gen an the person instantly gives up an there is also people who at very start of match run striaght up to the killer to be downed and hooked

I guess it depends on why they give up, at least for me. They get tunneled or camped or the killer is stomping hard and they are on last hook stage, I'm fine with them saying they want to go next.

But most of the time, its more that they lose the first chase and instantly go "nah dude, thats bs and I'm out" while most of the time they would still have had a good chance to win the game in that situation. Annoys me that it ruins it for the other survivors and also for the killer. Especially during archives or adept attempts.

AND the exact same thing can be said with survivors toxicity. What's the point playing a MULTIPLAYER game, if your experienceis far better to go against a bot? The actual issue is sensitive players on both ends of the game. Like Religion, no other will believe in what yourself believes in.

As someone who also uses off meta builds when I play killer, I have a lot more than 1% of people who DC lol. I wouldn't make that promise if I were you.

Also survivor mains are generally still just as toxic regardless of the build, if they "appreciate it" then they aren't showing it. Still get t-bag, chat BM, gate waiting ect. If anything it's worse using weaker builds as you'll end up losing more so they'll BM more. In my experience at least.

More on topic, survivors get upset the match isn't going their way and leave whether it's early or late in the match.

As you said, when it's done when the game is basically lost it's kinda whatever imo. Doesn't justify it and there are still downsides for the other players like less points and such, but it's not as annoying. But there's so so so many who do it when they could reasonably, or even easily, win. I dislike it on survivor so I dislike it on killer.

But then there's the people who think "the game is lost" when it's really not. For example, the games not lost just because there's 2 hooks at 5 gens when 3-4 are at 80-90%. But someone will think otherwise and nope right out. Even worse they might just use the "I'm not having fun so I have a right to leave" mindset as an excuse.

There's also plenty of people who want to play out the whole match regardless of the outcome. If many games where you're winning is cut short, the games you mostly get to see till the end are the ones where you lose. Since killer can't leave without penalties, which is also kind of not fair to the killer.

The ability to leave with no consequence needs to be addressed, early or late. Imo either both sides should be able to or neither should. Of those two I'd prefer if neither could.

I'd be mad if they could do it for free every game without penalty at the slightest inconvenience.

People are mad that you can leave without penalty(actively ruining the game for every other person in the game) 30 seconds into the game and then do it again next game. A killer dcing isn't even close to the same thing.

Let me phrase it like this, imagine every other game you go against a killer who has a bad first chase or even a good chase and then farms until the game is over. All you can do is essentially the "work" that is doing 5 gens without chase. Is that fun? Do you endorse doing nothing half your games?