Distortion nerf

Boon perks are bad in general, because if you have 30 seconds to set up a boon somewhere, that's 30 seconds (plus travel time) you weren't doing gens, and the killer probably has already seen you by then. Multiply that by each time you set up your boon.

Probably because they're geared towards doing that?

NTH prevents survivors from sticking too close to a gen constantly, Lethal helps with early game and some extra auras to make sure it's not wasted after the first 6 seconds of the game, BBQ is to incentivize going far from hook, Floods of Rage for finding a target post unhook or going for the unhooker and only gets value on unhook, etc etc.

Killers aren't running all of these at once either, they need to pick aura reads to fill in the spaces for their build or killer. Aside maybe Nurse, who we all agree could use a decent nerf to prevent her from being too overbearing with aura reads. And even then, aura read doesn't automatically make you good in chase, it just helps you locate your next chase quicker or assists in mindgames in very specific situations. For example Sadako's Distorted Photo, which I love to use to assist in early mindgames at loops, is ONLY useful in specific situations and doesn't stop survivors from throwing pallets and vaulting windows to keep away.

Edit: Except maybe Weave Attunement. That one's getting changed soon though, hopefully to a more fair state.

Did we get confirmation on lockers being changed?

Also, no, I didn't misunderstand you. I'm saying if a killer has all aura read to the point people think they do, they're more than likely not going to win unless they're Nurse, or they're also good at loops. Heck I've seen BBQ by itself complained about and I've personally been called a hacker a few times using it on Dredge.

They're not bad if you're the type of person to hop on a gen and do a totem after the gen is done, especially if one is near the gen you were doing.

If you're actively going out of your way to try to find a totem at the beginning of the game, trying to bless it, and then hopping on a generator I'd argue that, yes that is time better well spent.

I remember playing against a full aura reading Nurse months ago with my build of Deja Vu, Circle of Healing, Shadowstep, and Sprint Burst and I was able to buy my fellow teammates time to do gens. Sadly, as you are aware Shadowstep is specific to a boon's radius and she was able to systematically aura read other survivors down while I was the last one alive with gens still remaining. However, I was able to get hatch due to her not being able to find me with what she practically had.

If I didn't have that build, it would have been an easy 4k for that Nurse.

I think it's pretty common in most games to see two aura reading perks and two gen regressing perks.

A noticeable build you see a lot of the time in top level play is Lethal Pursuer, BBQ and Chili, Pain Resonance, and Pop Goes The Weasel.

It doesn't change how oppressive it is and you can easily swap out an aura perk for another — you could do Pop and Nowhere To Hide as it synergizes well. Regardless, as Firellius claimed there is a powercreep when it comes to the amount of aura reading in the game. It's not necessarily the limited amount of that killers can bring, it's the fact that there are perks that can easily show your aura without any notification for it unlike Hex: Undying for example which notifies you when you pass a dull totem. There are too many aura perks that are tied to specific things that survivors do and it's getting too convoluted to know when, where, and how you were spotted when you're practically unaware that a killer is coming to your direction. There was counterplay with BBQ and Undying as you can guess where the killer is going, but there is no counterplay to the remainder of the stronger ones that Behavior has created — this also causes issues and overlaps with people who are cheating in the game as any little thing can cause aura reading, which is what cheaters do with their wallhacks (making it harder to discern who is cheating and who is not).

I agree, but what type of changes would you create for other perks that provide your aura being red? The proposed changes I mentioned like making it so that it's tied to in game mechanics like doing generators is by itself not holding the game hostage, yet another player stated this perceived change would cause less interaction with the killer.

Put simply, there's too much aura reading in the game. I have no idea why we need this much when we simply have tell-tale signs of crows moving to know that a survivor was just there. Additionally, they've made locating survivor scratch marks more discernible as well. Even when Distortion was in the top ten perks - I played Onryo with Spies from the Shadow and I would consistently 4k and I had no aura reading and could easily find survivors simply by spawning to the TVs near my gens or even outright ignoring gens that were not worthy of being defended (they're not my three gens). Killers have so many tools that they could easily utilize, yet when a perk that blocks the extreme amounts of aura reading (this primarily became a conversation at the forefront when Friends Til The End was created) and people couldn't get value from it.

I've also been accused of cheating as well as killer, but that doesn't change my stance on why we need so much aura reading to help a killer — who already has so many advantages and an easier chance to find survivors and keeping pressure on throughout the duration of the game.

Probably for the sake of variety. Again, while there can be lots of aura reading options, it does not mean all forms of aura read are being used that often.

On my own Sadako, I use gen blocking perks to locate where to go next. Stuff like DMS or Thrilling Tremors. And I often get matches where two survivors hide with Distortion instead of assisting their teams, forcing me to scour for 10 minutes going in and out of power using Distorted Photo to try and get them to scream after their friends are dead just so I can find them since I don't have aura read specifically for them and enough of it to burn through the stacks. Even if I don't use aura aside her Distorted Photo, I can recognize just because there's a lot of aura doesn't mean it's always going to be an issue if you can recognize what they run and adapt to it, much like how killer has to adapt to what survivors bring.

I do think, however, more options for survivors are welcome for aura blocking as well instead of putting all our horses on Distortion just in general. Survivors should have options for perks they want to try and counter, just as killer should.

Nope. Now killers will bring aura builds and you'll all die quicker 😂

I actually think the consistency is the problem, personally. Something being far too consistent will always be an issue, like old 3 gens with Eruption. It was too easy for some survivors to simply hide with Distortion and let their team die for it.

That said, my suggestion to hide aura reads by other means with perks that counter specific aura reads, or at least a decent amount. We can also shift Distortion to 2 stacks every chase or hook to fill in any smaller outliers, since it does counter stuff like NTH and Floods of Rage pretty naturally.

Also thank you, I tend to try very unorthodox builds on my Sadako. Though the DMS nerf is going to make things problematic for my build, but I will find a way around it.

This is my belief as well. I would rather someone who isn’t a strong looper work on gens or focus on resets (rescues and healing) than enter a chase where they’re down in a few seconds. This is a bigger hit for the survivors than having distortion and not taking aggro but working on gens or performing other critical roles while a player who can handle a chase does that. One thing about 2v8 that I appreciate was it allowed different survivor styles to shine. For people who liked to play immersed they could spy on the killer, or work on gens. They didn’t have to worry about looping so much (there was a class for that too of course). This attitude should be in the main game as well.

Yeh I've had many games where I've been the only one to do gens and I've literally ran across the map to unhook a teammate all for them to rat me out. I'm literally sat there like "I should of let you go next on hook" and it shouldn't be that way.

Yeah that's an issue as well. BHVR needs to address situations that make cooperation with the killer possible or appealing. Like you should NEVER be cooperating. Why don't we have more options in these situations?

I actively put Circle of Healing on with Shadowstep attached. It's good to boon areas that the killer won't actively patrol as the killer more than likely won't go to edge map if the gen was already popped there.

It allows an area where a survivor can freely run into the boon radius to get the effects that you need and keeps the boon standing as long as possible rather than putting the boon in easily accessible areas where a gen is being worked on.

In the example I gave, I believe there was no gens that even popped and the killer just used her aura reading to find a survivor one after another and she couldn't find me as I was in the boon radius itself.

It all depends on how the game is going, but in that situation - I didn't do a gen and then boon given that she would find people with Lethal, BBQ, Nowhere To Hide, and an another aura read perk (probably Darkness Revealed) I can't remember as it was a while ago. Boons can be helpful if you know when to put them up and not excessively rely on wasting time setting it up.

In the example I gave doing gens was pretty fruitless as a full aura reading Nurse can be quite punishing on solo-queue by practically giving the nurse permanent wallhacking.