Will the entity keep the promise?
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Pretty sure the Entity is lying to Rin. And what can Rin do? It was the Entity who gave her another chance, and she could easily take that chance away.
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The Entity is lying through Her noise hole. Rin's father is probably long dead and buried.
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@Orion but who killed him? Did the wounds Rin managed to inflict kill him or is there something more? Because I doubt he'd die of age by now. He's got a longer life.
Also how will the Entity manage to dispose of Rin when she gets mad over the fact she can't get revenge?
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Her rage was said to be far too great for the entity to control. So she struck up a deal. Here's the quote.
A dark Fog slowly veiled her eyes, but it could not subdue her rage. She would not rest--not yet. The darkness whispered, promising blood and revenge.
An oath was made and Rin closed her eyes.
I highly doubt the entity can control Rin.
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@Poweas Ask yourself, what the hell is Rin going to do to a being who is, for all intents and purposes, a God? The fact Rin is there in the first place is nothing short of a twisted miracle.
I'm assuming he would have killed himself, or something else killed her father.
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Pretty sure he just did commit die, after all isn't the only reason he killed his entire family is because he lost his job ect?
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Yes, he snapped lost control.
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I mean, the Entity has some control over the Huntress, despite the fact she can lose her connection with her.
The same could be said for Evan, who is under constant pain and rage from the hooks embedded into him. Rin, possibly, can actively fight against the Entity's control. But it wouldn't do the poor girl any good.
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So she's just stuck? Forced to kill?
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Yup. Same as every other killer. The exceptions being:
Myers
Kenneth
We Legion
Amanda
Leatherface (Though it is stated he fears repercussions if he fails in killing)
Possibly Plague.
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Damn, I feel bad.
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The truth is often something few can stand.
Also Hag is a special case. I feel like she really doesn't care about anything anymore except the need to fill her stomach.
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Yeah definitely, that kind of torture would twist anyones mind. I don't blame her for being so deranged. I cant see myself withstanding it as well as she did.
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Rin's father was driven insane by the Entity itself to commit the incident that led to the death of his family. If I was to guess, the Entity might have retreated after taking Rin, making his father sane again. He might have suicided after realising what he had done, he might have ran away, he might have kept on living, or anything. We dont know that. What we know for certain is that Rin will never get her revenge because that is the whole point of the "Vengeful Spirit" tale.
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This question was once answered by the devs in this stream: https://youtu.be/GI0NOK6jrts?t=2537 at 42:18. In short she didn't get it
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Of course not, it was bait and Rin bit.
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This genuinely makes me wonder if the entity can fully control Kate. I think it does clearly in some sense since she is out through trials and was grabbed. But the entity has trouble controlling extreme rage, and strong emotions are what it feeds from. I wonder if someone has extreme hope if they can slightly break that control too...if the entity feeds off of all of it you know...maybe not Kate, but in general.
It couldnt control the one who who escaped the trials really, and maybe that was because they used their mind to find the hope needed to not be fully bound by the entity?
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Where does the torture the killers to force them to kill lore originate? It makes the story more interesting btw.
Also wouldn't Freddy also kill willingly? He's a weirdo for sure.
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@ASurvkillivorer Completely forgot about Sharp Hand Joe in one of my replies, he is also a willing killer.
And it originated by simply observing. Even the devs themselves said some killers were tortured. What? Did you think Evan stabbed himself with hooks? Or Herman put that stuff on his face?
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What? Did I think video games might have unrealistic elements in them? Never occurred to me.
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Japan has laws that protects criminals who have commited atrocious crimes, i think Rin´s father just got away with it after Rin´s death
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@ASurvkillivorer Lel. Still, not all killers were willing. Despite their reasoning for trying to reject our God.
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Maybe in between trials, at Rin's campfire, her father's tied to some wall and regenerates after the trials. Essentially Hell for him.
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For what I understood of the lore, it felt like The Entity promised her revenge, gave her the power, let her kill her father, (her mori looks like how she did it), them took her to the realm as Rin's part of the deal. Just my theory.
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@thekiller490490 The Entity did promise revenge. However, Rin's power was only given once in the realm, and her father was left alive back on earth. The Entity will NOT be keeping her end of the bargain.
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The Entity's promise to Rin is rather irrelevant if one considers the fact that she's an onryo, a spirit renowned for taking its rage out on ANYONE, not just the object of its revenge. Fury clouds the mind as they say.
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Entity feeds on strong emotions. Hope is good, but anger is nice too.
I think devs told, that Entity was going to take Rin`s father at first, but then It felt Rin`s anger and pure hatred so It took her instead
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I think the Entity is likely lying, feeding off of her hope like It does with the survivors.
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The Entity only cares about itself, no one and nothing else.
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no
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Despite some flaws here and there (such as lost connections/etc) I'm pretty sure The Entity has a near-absolute control over everything, or at least a pretty strong grip. It can prevent killers from leaving, punish those who don't feed it, keeps survivors perpetually, is able to bring new beings in all the time, can control the very layout of reality, and many more direct or indirect influences on the realm.
Even if the killers can 'struggle' against their fate, they're still stuck in with the survivors, one way or the other. Although, it's said that it works on the killers for eons before some of them are willing to kill for it, so maybe it just takes a long time to gain that control. Perhaps it can be broken?
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It was confirmed to be a lie in the spirits stream I believe. Or another stream. If the promise was delivered Rin would no longer be vengeful. The entity wouldn't be able to get her to kill ever again. No number of torture or tricks would make Rin active again. Which is why it tricked her into letting out her vengeance on survivors. But she seeks vengeance for only one man. One man she'll never get vengeance on.
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