Tunneling and Slugging
We need this to be bannable. I wish dbd had the option like Fortnite to record previous matches(idk maybe you all do) but this tunneling and slugging has gotten out of hand. And no I’m not going to run anti tunnel build. Shouldn’t have to. The game is just not playable as a survivor. Tunneled out at 5 gens slugged at 5 gens, it’s so gross. You can definitely tell the kiddos are on this game. Also that’s another point to mention. You should probably add some verification to prove that the players are 18+. I loved this game but now, idk anymore. Literally there was a streamer (not mentioning them) that had a title on their stream as slugging in chaos mode. And literally bled everyone out. At 5 gens…. Dbd / behaviour / devs please make the QOL adjustments for us solo enjoyers. It’s just not fun anymore…..
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then body blocking and gen rushing needs to be bannable too. you survivors cant have it your cake and eat it too. as a killer just trying to have fun . do you think its fun to be body blocked every time i get a down . make teabaging at the gate a perma ban and ill think about it .
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When you understand... This forum.... This game creators etc favor killers, you will understand that this will never happen. They don't care. Pretty sure they even said slugging and camping etc that you shouldn't even report. Once you digest that... You can either move on like my friends all did or switch to killer like I did. It's much easier and more fun.
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Its efficient. If you. Want it to stop the devs need to make it so it's more efficient to not do that. They need to make more playstyles viable
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oh so trying to save a teammate that’s getting tunneled out should be bannable you say? Lmao 🤣 you killer mains swear yall deserve the world. It’s already easy as it is. Teabagging is never going to go away, as squatting helps lose chase and hide better. But I agree with the bagging at the exit gates, just leave!! Many matches as both killer and survivor everyone could’ve gotten out if they weren’t standing there bagging. Hatch spawns when only the last player is standing, but many would rather bag for the nothing they did during the game. It’s hilarious, but shouldn’t be bannable. And that’s why I said they should record all matches so that way they can see if slugging or tunneling were acceptable aka a bully squad or sabo squad and tunneling justified with you are getting gen rushed. Let the puny survivors have some fun too, that’s all I’m asking
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oh I know 🙄😴 lmao 🤣 it is what it is though. Can’t change their minds. One bad match and it’s nerf that nerf this, I’m just asking to allow others to have fun too. It’s fun obliterating people I get it but at the same time you should give a fair chance to everyone, also, all the blood points you miss out on when just ending the match asap. Then back to lobby simulator
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We can ban tunneling and slugging when we ban survivors for repairing gens.
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Thank you for the new treat~
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lol I expected these comments, but that’s why i stated they should have a recording of every game(and only review the ones that were from valid reports) to see if slugging or tunneling was justified. Not every survivor you go against is going to be gen rushing. I feel like gen rushing is happening more now because of the said tunneling and slugging. But if there is no punishment for anyone’s actions then there will be no progress. I agree that tunneling and slugging is justified when getting gen rushed or going against a sabo squad. You really can tell who plays and doesn’t play survivor on these forums. Maybe next time read the whole post? 👏🤣
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Tunneling is fine I enjoy getting tunneled
Slugging is generally fine unless it's ego-slugging (slugging to intentionally bleed out or to secure a 4k despite not knowing where the 4th survivor is). there are plenty of situations where slugging is the only option
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No.
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did I say watch every game? Maybe only the ones where there were valid reports. Example: only looking into reports from people who have made valid reports not just reporting out of anger. I play to have fun not to win. It’s just not fun for the game to slug or tunnel at 5 gens. Period. Slugging has become a huge issue since the PTB notes. That’s all I’m saying. Does it bother me? A little? What do I do? Watch TikTok’s and crawl away. I love when the killers can’t find me bc they wanted to slug. But still, there should be an option to just give up when you are playing with trolls without a dc penalty. 🤓
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and then what killer should do if, for example the unhooked survivor bodyblocks him?
Hit him and leave slugged? Banned for slugging!
Hit him and pick up? Banned for tunneling!
Or another example: Sabo squad
Well… i guess in this one killer will be forced to pick up and let survivor wiggle for free, because guess what? Otherwise he will get banned for slugging. The same happens with flashlight/pallet saves situations. Pick up ⇒ survivor saved. Don't pick up ⇒ Banned for slugging7 -
You'll never know a report is valid until you watch the match
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First issue is there's no means to know what is a valid or invalid report until you've watched every recording of every game ever reported.
The second issue is its a terrible idea to dismiss somebody's report just because they've made a false report in the past.
Youve set up a lose-lose situation here to solve a problem that doesn't exist
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okay before you all lose your mind about watching matches, just forget about it the real issue here is slugging and tunneling when not needed. The end. You all probably don’t want matches watched because you all are the culprits lol 😂 most of us can just send our report the hard and current way with the video footage. 🎉🤯
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They don't need to be bannable. They just need to come with risk. Anti-tunnel perks are a good option if you find you're being tunnelled alot. For slugging I've been bringing Exponential to pretty good results. I don't mind either as I don't see them alot, but I cop alot of slugging for the 4k and I hate it with a passion. The game is over, you've won, your ego shouldn't get in the way of letting me go to my next match.
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in what part did I say holding the game hostage was okay. ? How was I defending this? I don’t agree at all, i was just stating what I would do if a killer is camping both exit gates and hatch was closed? What’s your motive here? Let me go ahead and flag that comment because it seems as if you are trying to start something and that’s not what I’m trying to do at all. And again I stated slugging or tunneling is ok in certain scenarios. Also if I’m looking for a key I’m doing my objective by trying to get out. I would rather take my chances trying to open the door and get sacrificed then wait that long. This sounds like a bait post and I’m not for it, also I did not say I reported slugging or camping. I know the rules and what is reportable and what is not. Been playing for quite a bit. Thanks
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@Nazzzak Agreed. Not bannable but some risk would work too. There just has to be something they can do to address this as this has been an issue for years now and recently getting much and much worse.
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Its so fun how killer mains on this forum talk about the survivor taking a hit is asking to be tunneled. Be for real, you are tunnelers and do not even try to hide it. When we talk about tunneling is systematically going for the unhooked survivor as soon as they are free. That happens almost every match.
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You absolutely ooze concentrated salt, friend. Not just in OP, but every reply of yours through this thread have been salty.
Tunneling and Slugging should not be bannable. There's no discussion to be had, because the idea of it being used as a weapon by even remotely competent bully-squads is too easy to imagine.
"I'm not going to run anti-tunnel build": Then suffer. Suffer, and stop whining. Counter the meta, and meta can (but doesn't necessarily) involve some tunneling and slugging. Bring perks.
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Imagine playing a shooter, and asking the devs to make shooting at the head bannable.
'It's just too efficient! Shooting the torso or the feet doesn't kill nearly as fast! They deliberately aim at the head to be toxic!"
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this game has come so way far. it is not the same game it was 2017. imagine if you can, no endgame. what we see at the gate now is nothing compared to what once was. survivors would never leave.
we also had no protection against camping or tunneling. you had to hope the rescuing survivor had borrowed time and they usually didn't. so it was just a big mess and teammates would just kill you for reasons knowm only to themselves. Now, i just run off the record and that is sufficient. if i still get tunneled, i get to waste the killer's time.
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That streamer needs to be banned. He has been smurfing his MMR and trolling players like that for a long time. He spent 6 hours bleeding out player after player in Lights Out. Devs don't do anything about it because they condone the behavior.
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I mean it's same like saying: "a team with background player and uncounterable flashbangs? I shouldn't have to run lightborn!" Or "a team with 80 gen-perks and the best toolboxes in the game? I shouldn't have to run regression!", well it's something you don't like but part of the game so you ether have to live with it OR you use perks against it.
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Nice try but false equivalance. In a shooter both players have equal chances to get a headshot. There one would complain that one weapon does much more damage or has less recoil than another for how easy it is to use. Running back to hook to tunnel requires considerably less skill and effort than looping at half health and coordinating against it without comms.
While OP has a point they should adjust though. Bring at least DS or OTR if you experience tunneling this often.
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BHVR already has the data that tells them when and how much tunneling happens and how much slugging happens. It's not a 'we don't have that', they've been clear its part of the game.
If BHVR's mindset changed on that, they could easily make it so slugging and/or tunneling just weren't possible.
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I'm tired of it lately too, especially when playing on gold or rainbow rank. But I don't think that's a reason to ban it or block people's accounts for it. It's pretty much the same as if survs were blocked for flashlight blinding, sawing hooks, or dropping palettes. That's bullshit.
I've come up with my own tactics against such players, perks like “Open Handed” and “Kindred” make it a lot easier to play against tunneling or camping killers.
But lately I've been playing really annoying, sawing off hooks, dropping pallets, flashlight blinding when I can, etc, and that's enough. I understand that the killer's ass burns from it, and I am pleased to realize it, and I will not care even if he zatunellite me or kempit, because I very much annoyed him the whole game and achieved his goal, pissed him off properly.
You should keep it simple and remember it's just a game. No one will scold you for your loss, no one will take your money away from you, and no one will do anything bad to you if you lose. Losing is okay, you can't always and forever win.0 -
The only people who complain about tunneling and slugging are those who have never bothered playing the killer side. They have no perspective to understand that these strategies HAVE to be in the game because they are the only tools that killers have to fight against coordinated teams who repair gens in the most efficient way possible (which tunneling can counter) or are always in perfect position for a flashlight/pallet save whenever a teammate gets downed (which slugging can counter).
These strategies exist and are necessary because BHVR will never do anything to address the reason why they exist, which is the unfair advantage of survivor coordination on comms. So if survivor players want to continue enjoying this advantage, then they also need to accept what the other side is going to do in response to it.
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Don't like it? Don't play. This is this game, so maybe survivor role just isn't for you?
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OK so who is going to be the all-powerful judge who declares when the tunneling or slugging was needed or was not needed"?
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Tunneling and camping are not bannable and will probably never be, as they are strategies and part of the gameplay, moreover in certain scenarios they are the correct play.
We can discuss how these strategies, that can indeed be rough and unfun to deal with, can be discouraged or how alternative playstyles can be encouraged, but please let's not suggest to ban people for playing the game.
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