Remove this hook on ormand c'mon bhvr
This was that survivors first hook and the other couldn't really do anything, They also never got any anti camp. This hook is literally made for camping survivors. Can't even imagine what bubba would be like.
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But what about Boil Over and Flip Flop or whatever.
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I thought this hook existed specifically because of Boil Over.
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I remember when that hook didn't exist and I faced a duo running boil over, fun times /s
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Should the devs remove basement hooks? Hooks on hills? There are inherently hooks throughout each map that are more dangerous to be upon for survivor and easier to defend as killer.
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Get rid of hooks all together. Bring on Entity Cages into regular trials, from 2v8 and Dorito Head type cages. Make them have the camping range so they move away from the camper after a few seconds killer hung around them. Stay longer when there's survivors trying to rush save.
Seriously. After every single change for Anti This Anti That. Even lore wise, why do we still deal. with Hooks, and not the Entity's appendages a.k.a. cages holding a survivor. Killer's are feeding them to the Entity so it makes sense ... yeah?
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i abuse that hook for camping now. it has made ormond such an easy map for killer to win on. ormond used to be way more challenging without that hook. now it is semi-free win. it is like eyrie of crows hook on top side that is super easy to camp.
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Upstairs Hooks should not exist at all. No idea who thought it is good to have Hooks at the top of two-story buildings, but they should all be removed. Sometimes they are even stronger than Basement.
Boil Over to keep those is just a poor excuse, but IMO Boil Over should be reworked anyway, since you only find the Perk in very specific and annoying Builds, because for everything else it is just too weak.
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RPD library Stairs would like a word. Its been proven time and time again if upstairs hooks didnt exist Survivors would just run there to get a guaranteed unhookable spot escape even if they didn't have Boil over.
The only real solutions is the building has to reworked to allow that spot to be more open with different spots or a staircase for survs to get to it from different directions.
That spot with the pallet that has a drop down could have a staircase going up to the second
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Yeah, the main complaint about that hook is indeed how it allows for an easy camp. But as long as Boil Over exists, I think it is necessary.
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So by your logic should remove like the basement hooks and other hooks that are in hard to reach locations ie: corners of mazes, higher ground, easy to camp spots?
Too many maps are already survivor bias and easy for bully squads to mess around on so no hooks need to be removed or relocated, matter of fact more hooks should be like the one you are referring to so killers can better camp areas and catch rescuers off guard.
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I mean you obviously haven't had little rat survivors running into upstairs rooms while running boil over before these hooks were added.
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i am of the opinion that slugging should exist as long it has plausible risk and win condition for killer.
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Really is a double edged sword. If the devs get rid of second story hooks, survivors can go back to using Boil Over for cheese strats. Keep the hooks, and killers can take advantage of positioning of these hooks for unpunished camping where they otherwise would be.
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It's definitely busted. I even saw Otz complaining about how broken it is the other day. He intentionally camped it in a few games to show how absurdly strong it is.
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Yeah but its 1 hook on a map where most of the time you arent getting to it. Absurdly strong hook for an absurdly strong map balances it out. Also the boil over thing.
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Remove boil over and the hook can be removed I guess.
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A killer camping a hook and making it (almost) impossible to unhook is a far more common issue than a survivor running boil over. Hooks like this should not exist.
Just put a hook right next to the drop down balconies and boil over will also be negated as they wouldn't have enough time to build up wiggle progress before getting hooked.
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I dunno about that. There is usually a hook that spawns nearby below it. That could be due to this map being reworked though. I can’t imagine a hook that can be camped with only one way out is in response to Boil Over though. It’s probably an oversight by the devs.
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