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Is anyone having any luck ranking?

fluffybunny
fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161
edited March 2019 in General Discussions

I'm wondering how the new pipping system is affecting fellow survivors. I've been stuck around 10 and 11 for the past couple of days. Also do you typically SWF or solo? I'm generally running solo (duo at most recently) and often teammates screw over you more than the killer does. Wondering how ranking is going for people who SWF often.

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  • dnj510
    dnj510 Member Posts: 438

    I haven't played SWF in a while so I've mostly been playing solo, which adds to the frustration.

    I made it to rank 4 before the 2.6.0 update and I haven't left it, yet. Let's just say, out of 20 survivor matches, 80% have been safety pips, 19% have been pips, and the other 1% I have lost a pip. It's easier to pip the lower in rank you are with this new system but when you get to the red ranks, it gets much harder. In the red ranks, they expect you to have a great match every time in order to rank up but we all know getting a great match consistently isn't realistic.

  • TMCtildo
    TMCtildo Member Posts: 18

    went from 7 to 9 with no hope of coming back lmao

  • Keene_Kills
    Keene_Kills Member Posts: 649

    Dunno. I'll let you know when I actually get a game that doesn't load with 3 ppl. Should be back to 15 by then and starting fresh.

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @dnj510 I wasn't sure if it was easier if in a SWF group or not. They have the benefit of coordination ("Killer is camping!", "No one's coming", etc.) and you'll know each other's perks, weakness, etc. It feels like they just made it harder for people to pip outside a SWF group. I've had multiple good games, but it seems to end with a black pip and just barely missing the pip. I'm honestly surprised anyone has made it up past 10 with how fussy the ranking system is now. You like have to do most everything. Pretty sure there's only room for one or two pips on a team and I've had games where I didn't pip, despite escaping.

  • Kurisataru
    Kurisataru Member Posts: 460

    I just started playing this on pc from ps4. I've only had like 5-10 (I think) pc games on dbd so far and when this new thing came out I was on rank 17 I think. I dunno if I should've pipped by now because I wasn't caring about pipping at first. But no joke, if running the killer into my teammates and farming them is what it will take to get me out of playing with these ranks then i unfortunately will do it. It's tough for me to be a solo survivor with new amigos. I need to get back to my 10-12 survivors. Otherwise I will just switch to killer main for a bit.

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @Kurisataru Are you having troubles pipping past 17? I thought they made the higher ranks easier to pip past.

  • legion_main
    legion_main Member Posts: 483

    I’ve been pipping but hardly it’s real hard to get up there now maybe that’s a good thing though

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @legion_main I've heard from others that whether you pip or not is dictated by your team, though, and you're unlikely to get past certain ranks depending on variables like bad teams and bad killers. Are you talking about pipping as survivor or killer, btw? I haven't had too much of an issue pipping as killer.

  • legion_main
    legion_main Member Posts: 483

    I’ve been getting straight double pips as killer easy but as survivor it definitely is a lot harder

  • Mat_Sella
    Mat_Sella Member Posts: 3,557

    @fluffybunny I used to get rank 1 even when i first played the game, if this system stays its definitely not gonna happen anymore. I'm already down to rank 6...not that i really mind, less try-hard killers for me

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @Mat_Sella Yeah, I don't really mind the current killers I'm seeing tbh. Just think it's weird to not pip after having a good game where I escape, but in most cases I still get quite a bit of points.

  • Kurisataru
    Kurisataru Member Posts: 460

    Yeah, I was wondering why I wasn't pipping after a few matches and then I figured out why. Might just have to see which of my pc friends that rarely play this game are ready to toxic swf with me, hopefully they're depipped enough to help. And I'm ashamed to say that but crap, if I don't do it, it will take too much time to pip as survivor without obviously grieving people just to stay on the gens rather than be a chase jocky/campbait or possibly having a killer turn on me for being a d-bag to my teammates. I can understand why people are wanting to quit playing this game over the new ranking system tbh, it sucks being stuck with people you can't depend on. It's like trying to break SWF while at the same time making us depend on it.

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    I've seen people say as a red rank, they've been paired with rank 15~20. Yes, it's broken.

    Also the only games I've pipped past rank 10 were all 4 man SWF.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    I can attest - about half my matches were with a red ranked killer while the other survivors were all purple/green ranks. I don't feel those survivors are going to rank up and will likely rank down when matched like that.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Ranking up at purple/red ranks is near impossible because there are not enough opportunities to get the points needed for emblems on an individual basis. If you get chased a long time, you can't get Ben or LB. If you never get chased you can't get Chaser. If someone gets hooked you have to race 2 other survivors for the rescue. And if the killer decides to camp/tunnel anyone at any point, you just depipped. Safety pip if you were lucky and managed to do 3 gens solo. If you rescue someone and they go potato, running to the killer so you lose a safe rescue, then you just got screwed out of a pip, maybe even a safety pip. You literally have to do everything yourself, but since there are 3 other survivors that's usually impossible.

    I really, really hate it right now. Borderline making me want to quit playing survivor. Killer ranking is messed up too, but not nearly as bad. I feel the people complaining most about killer ranking are those that constantly camp, tunnel, use OP add-ons, or use moris all the time. However I've still been screwed out of a pip in certain instances even if I got a 4k 5 gen. You have a bit more control over whether or not you pip as killer, but not enough for it to be a consistent measure of skill.

    Both systems measure luck more than anything.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790


    If you get chased for evader, you are risking your unbroken (getting down even once degrades it) and not getting anything for lightbringer since you are getting chased. If you get benevolence, it is at another suvivor's expense. Lightbringer is a limited resource there's only five gens and two exits for four survivors - someone is going to be out of luck. Survivor emblems are fighting with each other, in order to get one you are not getting any of the others (not considering unbroken).

    Killer emblems are more in synergy with each other as one often leads to the others, you get chaser all the time which leads to malicious and devout, all while trying to protect gatekeeper. The only emblem killer risks by pursuing the other three is gatekeeper with a better chance at improving more than one emblem just by doing their objective - which they have to do anyway.

    While you are on a hook or slugged, you lose out on any opportunities. You become an opportunity. Killer also doesn't compete with other killers for their emblem opportunities and they are never in a 'time out' on the hook.

  • MegsAreEvil
    MegsAreEvil Member Posts: 819

    I ranked from 1 to 5. Lately most cause of having newbies as teammates. No fun at all.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited March 2019

    Is anyone having luck even winning games at low rank?

    Feels like my team just goes down in 5 seconds. Many are the kind that get pulled out of lockers. Its ######### impossible.

    Here is a perfect example from my last game..

    - About 20 seconds into the game

    - Dwight takes a hit from Clown

    - Immediately takes a second hit (#########? How?)

    - I wait until Clown has gone, unhook, Clown starts coming back for the tunnel like most killers do, Dwight....rather than run AWAY from the direction the killer went runs towards him instead. Down again almost instantly.

    It just keeps happening. Survivors last about 10 seconds in a chase or they get pulled out of lockers. It's ######### ridiculous.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    I am glad about this update it makes me not care about rank at all now lol, it feels good honestly just remove rank at this point it would be way more enjoyable if I could die and not feel like trash because I depip'd for some bs reason. Would probably tone down the toxicity in the community too but I am aware a lot of people wouldn't agree with me but I guess it's just my opinion so shrug

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,598

    to be honest i haven't had any recent problems with ranking....i also feel the new ranking system to me is good, i rank when i feel i deserve it, in the past i have ranked up and thought, i didn't do much in the game to earn that lol

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 1,985

    It’s not bad, but it’s not good either if I’m being honest. I’m always a smidge away from pipping most times.

  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,598

    to be honest i haven't had any recent problems with ranking....i also feel the new ranking system to me is good, i rank when i feel i deserve it, in the past i have ranked up and thought, i didn't do much in the game to earn that lol

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    To my surprise, I stay at R1. Probably because I play Legion often: he's a fun killer, and one of the best for BP hunting. New ranking system rewards his playstyle too, while it punishes Billy, Leatherface, Michael, and it also punishes skilled Nurses.

    Not sure about survivors though. When I play survivor, I almost never pip, but it may be me: I'm not that great. At any rate, it's weird to see two silvers, one gold, one iridescent... and a black pip.

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378

    It's vastly tighter to get pips as Survivor for the games I get.

    -only 2-3 load in

    -almost 2 DC every game or every other

    -Killer Tunnels and camps a person down and teammates don't do gens.

    -people get downed way too fast

    -frequent games with horrid ping and Hitbox issues.

    I'll be lucky to get a pip nowadays

  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    I really don't care about rank, I just play

  • SailedSavage
    SailedSavage Member Posts: 280

    I'm at rank 7 I currently although I'm not playing as much as I usually do. As a consistent rank 1 survivor I don't mind the slower progression. It's almost impossible to double pip now which means I get more games before I get long wait times at ranks 1-3. Not to mention a lot of people who would make it to those ranks before the update didn't seem to really know what they were doing still. Waiting 20 minutes for a game only to be paired with someone who unhooks you right in front of the killer or hides instead of doing gens while you are being chased is frustrating. Now the amount required to pip needs to go down a point or two because I have games where the killer doesn't touch me, I win every chase, do a few gens and escape yet still BARELY pip.

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161
    edited March 2019
  • LightsOut88
    LightsOut88 Member Posts: 123

    Its the same struggle for killer. I got a 3 man after what was a very challenging match and still safety pipped. I had do do soooo much to even get the third kill and because I didnt play perfectly according to the emblems platform I seem to be forever stuck at rank 11 Killer when 4 months ago I was rank 1 before I took a break. I came back to Dbd and killer is even harder than it was before!

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354

    The new system is rough, not fair and annoying. I'm on ps4 in purple and green ranks mostly depending on how many times I dc within some hours. The higher the longer I wait for a lobby (solo). With friends even longer. There is not enough points for every survivor to rank up. There is barely enough for 2 IF the killer is playing good AND fair.

    Most killers I encounter now just proxycamp and tunnel the first they find (even if the whole team tries to distract and takes hits) this person is definately gonna derank that game. So it's up to the killer in this situation.

    If you get bad teammates that just hide and do nothing you won't be able to get any points. With the new system ranking up isn't s.th that got much to do with how good you play it's s.th based on luck and how good the ppl are the you are playing with.

    For example: I got chased by the killer from the start, ran him around for 1 gen (that took really long) he lost me again. I found a gen expecting there to be ruin cause it took them so long but no. I started that gen, got it to like 80 % when the killer found me again (he didn't find or chase anyone else) he kicked my gen and the chase started again. When I got around the map nearly no gen was started, by the time he got me, no other gen got done. I saw 2 of the others crouching somewhere with UE doing nothing only 1 person was on a gen. I did get rescued and decided to play safer. I made my way back to the gen I started it was back to zero. And the other gens weren't touched.

    I had chase points full by then. But then he found s.o else that went down pretty fast, s.o was rushing for the unhook got caught and hooked as well. With 2 ppl on the hook I decided to at least do the second gen so s.o could get the hatch. But the first got to struggle and no one got unhooked so I decided to take them down even if the gen was nearly done. When I went for the save (both still on the hook) the first was in struggle and the second nearly. I unhooked the second before struggle but the killer came back so I took a hit unhooked the other. I got chased and lost him again. I didn't heal cause I wanted to get the gen done first. Went back to my gen got it done and was in another chase that was short. I got hooked but never unhooked again. The killer found the two that were hook before and the one that never got hooked was sitting on the hatch.

    I'm not sure if it was a blackpip or a depip could be both from what I experienced.