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So I assume survivors aren't supposed to have fun?
Enter the void:
- Survivors are perma-exhaused and perma-broken, on top of that they have to HOLD M1 to go there.
- Killers are undetectable, can go to void instantly and can use their powers there (literally saw trapper setting traps on those wooden planks).
Void power:
- Survivors can create some kind of smoke bomb that literally does nothing besides being silly, on top of that, survivors view is also obscured, because I guess why they should even have advantage in that, am I right?
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/430216/please-disable-aura-reading-through-smoke#latest
It won't even give killer blindness for a really short duration? - Killers have ability to inflict damage on survivors by releasing captured haunt, also already abused by double-tapping for example on Deathslinger
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/1g5zdba/the_event_haunt_power_might_be_a_bit_op/
No kind of event pallets for survivors, no tempbuffs for healing, no some kind of Iron Will, literally nothing.
How could someone playtest this and said: yep, this event is somewhat fun on survivor side??
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Why does everyone think killer don't have to hold down for the portal? you have to hold down space for half a second or something to use it xD
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Survivors are perma-exhaused and perma-broken, on top of that they have to HOLD M1 to go there.
ONLY if you enter the void while being injured or get injured inside the void. Otherwise you are NOT broken nor exhausted.
Killers are undetectable, can go to void instantly and can use their powers there (literally saw trapper setting traps on those wooden planks)
it is literally a fair change??? Like what were you supposed to do as a literal 100% M1 killer in the void, especially now when void loops are significantly stronger???
Survivors can create some kind of smoke bomb that literally does nothing besides being silly, on top of that, survivors view is also obscured, because I guess why they should even have advantage in that, am I right?
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/430216/please-disable-aura-reading-through-smoke#latest
It won't even give killer blindness for a really short duration?
does nothing besides being silly? Are we being real here at all? Looks like not.
Killers have ability to inflict damage on survivors by releasing captured haunt, also already abused by double-tapping for example on Deathslinger
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/1g5zdba/the_event_haunt_power_might_be_a_bit_op/
this is dumb and i think haunts should've had some sort of cooldown to prevent 2-taps with them.
How could someone playtest this and said: yep, this event is somewhat fun on survivor side??
because killers are again heavily discouraged to enter the void, despite the change to power inside void. If you manage to force killer into the void, you are literally spitting on their map pressure because you are isolating them from gens completely.
I think BHVR should seriously stop introducing events at all because yall would only be happy if there were 0 benefits for other side to play the event at all.
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ONLY if you enter the void while being injured or get injured inside the void. Otherwise you are NOT broken nor exhausted.
Bestie, if you are healthy BROKEN literally does nothing to you and also was that nerf really that necessary?
does nothing besides being silly? Are we being real here at all? Looks like not.
So what does this item do?
Create smoke bomb in what I cannot also see where I am going, killers don't even have blindness inflicted on them for some time, what's the point?
I think BHVR should seriously stop introducing events at all because yall
BHVR earns money that I spend on things I like.
BHVR don't have to introduce events to entertain me, but I don't have to and I won't spend money on this game if I am not entertained.
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Its not if injured its always for exhausted in Void (aka the hear with a down arrow and no bar on it). Injured is only for broken status.
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Bestie, if you are healthy BROKEN literally does nothing to you and also was that nerf really that necessary?
making loops inside void significantly stronger is the counterweight mechanic.
So what does this item do?
Create smoke bomb in what I cannot also see where I am going, killers don't even have blindness inflicted on them for some time, what's the point?
you have something that works similar to blind without a need for you to time and pinpoint anything, which works really well.
BHVR earns money that I spend on things I like.
BHVR don't have to introduce events to entertain me, but I don't have to and I won't spend money on this game if I am not entertained.
it's not only you and your side that spent money on game so that you can expect your fun to be something inside main focus. Last year whole event was pointless to play as quite a batch of killers, and even during this event it's pointless to enter void as killer unless you really want to force a survivor out. I guess things are only fun when the side you play gets all the benefits.
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That explains a lot. I was surprised how fast the killer was near me. But i guess its fair, teleport looping is otherwise a bit too easy.
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Right, you know how it was before? Same speed for both killers and survivors, and you think it was fair? If you consider that there is 4 survivors and 1 killer?
When killer is in the different realm trying to create ghost traps (it was before and these ghosts were practically useless) - survivors have 10-20 seconds of free time on the map without the opponent.
On survivor side - they needed only 1 from 4 players to create THE SAME AMOUNT of ghosts - which means 1 side doesn't do the main objective at all - but the other side do the objective and creating ghost traps at the same time.
This was not fair - players were telling that killers should've have a faster interaction with the portal AND creating ghosts.
And it was only one from many unfair issues with this event before. I know all them all, but I don't need to bring it to this conversation, It was purely survivor sided event.
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my bad, tho even with exhausted status effect, void is safer place for survivors to jump in than for killers, since it works as a map pressure vacuum if you enter it as the killer
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it's not only you and your side that spent money on game so that you can expect your fun to be something inside main focus.
and even during this event it's pointless to enter void as killer unless you really want to force a survivor out. I guess things are only fun when the side you play gets all the benefits.
Currently survivors don't have fun at all, and all the fun is for the killers, so idk, do you have fun?
Also are telling me that this time it's pointless for killer to go to void yet the biggest issue are stronger loops inside?
making loops inside void significantly stronger is the counterweight mechanic.
It doesn't make sense what you are saying right now, because if it's pointless to enter void then why even bother about those """significantly stronger""" loops there?
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Currently survivors don't have fun at all, and all the fun is for the killers, so idk, do you have fun?
when you are trying to rely on your opponent being friendly and gife you escape served on a table and game introducing more basekit mechanics to make up for your refusal to learn the basics, that happens :D
Also are telling me that this time it's pointless for killer to go to void yet the biggest issue are stronger loops inside?
it's also pointless for killer to enter the void because they generate 0 pressure on the map while in the void.
It doesn't make sense what you are saying right now, because if it's pointless to enter void then why even bother about those """significantly stronger""" loops there?
void is a main event mechanic, one side gets much more benefits from entering it than the other side, which part did you not understand? I literally played couple of event matches using Agi only + event offering, entering void every time was just a free sign for survivors that they are safe on their objectives.
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Well I didn't guess very good, it's still no onetap. If you just press space once you'll hit into the air and stay exactly where you are xD
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Virtually zero reason to play any events as a survivor.
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Anybody else notice that there are zero tool boxes offered as well? Tell me you don't care about survivors without telling me you don't care about survivors
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Honestly, I'm having an easier/more fun time as survivor. I like throwing the stupid smoke pellets. I like kicking the pumpkins. I can come and go from the void whenever it's convenient for me.
In my handful of killer games, I couldn't figure out how you were supposed to have time to do anything.
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Honestly, I am having fun in the event as survivor. It is cool!
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I've been having fun in the event playing both sides. If you're going to really worry about trying to win as survivor, just don't go into the portal at all. There's no reason to, unless it's to help get distance from killer in chase with the side benefit of keeping them out of the normal realm while your teammates are doing gens. I've done this in many of my matches.
The amount of survivor main player whining has been off the charts lately. If you're not having fun, then don't play. I'll gladly take the shorter queue times when I play survivor.
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The smoke bombs are decent but it's not a guarantee distraction in chase. Sometimes it work if you got the right set up to miss direct and that about it. The portals being on the map will always benefit survivors more than the killer. Don't matter how fast the killer can enter the portal. If u was about go down because there no resources near by and a portal allow u to excape to the void with resources ... than that quite powerful. Going into the void already remove the killer ability to pressure the map so just entering one might get the killer to drop chase. I love last year event more but this void event pretty cool as well. We can mostly all agree standing still near hook is cheesy right? Was camping portals mid chase to teleport in and out last year not cheesy? How is the 0.2 second change a bad thing.
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If you're going to really worry about trying to win as survivor, just don't go into the portal at all. There's no reason to, unless it's to help get distance from killer in chase
- I want to have fun in this event, I don't have to win to have fun, but this event is just pointless for survivors.
- "Get distance from killer in chase" you sure about that? It takes you 1.2 seconds (+ time to position yourself) to go to the void, so in those ~1.5 seconds killers can traverse ~10m with lunge attack at the time you are still loading to the void.
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- I've had fun in the event playing as survivor. It is possible
- I've used the portals as survivor many times and I'd say at least half the time the killer doesn't chase me into the portal. Sometimes they won't chase me even after they get an M1 hit on me right before I go in because they don't want to waste time in there. That's an awfully good way to gain distance.
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So don't play the event then
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Your talking logic here, that's a capital offense
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Because cheater are an actual problem and not you whining at an event?
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cheaters don't need to be taken care of? What exactly is your point?
Ohh pardon me, i get it, you are also in that creed that wants to ragebait people with those "survivor unplayable, killer overbuffed" kind of threads
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I say it's a fun idea, but the fact that killers 1 only have been running franklins and 2 killers again not only 1 have a advantage but 2 easily can abuse mechs, n survivors get pretty much a gag prop from the well. I got to escape only 1 time n that was by luck bc I got camped hard/tunneled n was able to get chased long enough for my team to finish all the gens n then thankfully come save me on death hook n me out play the killer n run n this was by a knight.
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This event is pretty phoned in, uninspiring stuff.
That said, as far as the actual void powers, survivor definitely got the better end of it. The void spirit only really as any utility to do a quick double tap when the survs are in animation.
The void crystal "smoke bombs" are way more useful, and I've escaped 1-2 chases by using them pretty much every match.
But a pretty disappointing event overall. Queue times are pretty long, and the quality of teammates/opponents I've been matched with has left a lot to be desired, even compared to solo queue. A higher percentage of bad killers, though, and today I escaped well over half the time. Maybe even 75%.
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my queue times for event are actually quite short (~10s for survivor over morning/day, same over the evening/night as the killer).
Event is quite interesting in nature, even though entering the void is significantly more beneficial for survirors, i just enjoy interacting with event objectives overall as both sides
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Whether or not the scales are tipped in the killers favour, going into the void IS disadvantageous for killers.
It's an entirely seperate map with no objectives to defend. If a survivor is going into the void then you either leave them to it or leave the rest of the map unpressured. With how much of an issue "big maps" have always been for killers, this isn't an insubstantial handicap, the very existence of the void is bad for killers.
So they should have the upper hand against survivors in this event. But like I said at the start, if those 'upper hands' are proportional I'm not sure.
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Yes no advantage going. I guess the Pure BS of getting 2 insta downs for spending 5 seconds off the map is a disadvantage now. Its literally go in get haunt (Gives 2 stacks) leave chase press Q and M1 in lunge range or off hook to get a free down.
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How could someone playtest this and said: yep, this event is somewhat fun on survivor side??
Because thankfully, devs aren't as negative or energy-draining as you seem to be in this post.
"Survivors are perma-exhausted and perma-broken," you say as if this were a negative thing. You're exhausted so that you don't abuse perks, and you're broken so that you can't get healed for free every time you're injured.
"Killers are undetectable, can go to the void instantly, and use their power there." Ah, there it is. Both killers and survivors have to hold down an action button to enter, and it's the exact same time for both sides. But what would you know? With this post, it’s clear you don’t even know there’s a "play as killer" button.
"No kind of event pallets for survivors, no temp buffs for healing, no kind of Iron Will, literally nothing." You need BHVR to give you base kit buffs and perks to have fun? Lol.
It's amazing how you managed to create a post consisting entirely of bad takes, to the point that I can't really tell if this is satire.
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Events always bring out the histrionics.
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cheaters don't need to be taken care of?
They need to be taken care of, same as balancing the game - if your solution to everything bad happening to survivors is "uninstall game lmao", and for the killers is "this is serious issue bhvr, you need to see this asap" then you're just biased.
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"No kind of event pallets for survivors, no temp buffs for healing, no kind of Iron Will, literally nothing." You need BHVR to give you base kit buffs and perks to have fun? Lol.
One side have ability to inflict damage in chase, plus it's already abused for double-tapping and insta-downing survivor.
Other side have smoke bomb that obscures killers vision and also survivors. This smoke bomb don't reduse your grunts of pain, don't inflict blindness to the killer and basically does little to nothing at all, because if killer is chasing you, they might whiff in air once, but then they will hit you.
Plus as someone above me said you didn't even read this post, so maybe do that beforehand?
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Its been like this a long time and I don't see it changing. The game caters to killers to an unfathomable imagination so it's only to be expected that events are unfairly balanced as well.
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Smoke bombs actually prevent killers from hearing anything while they're inside them, which you'd know if you'd played at least one match as Killer during this event. I highly recommend giving it a try, I promise BHVR isn't out to get you. Plus, there's still plenty of time left, so you have lots of days to get better with the smoke bombs, because if they’re 'doing anything at all' for you, it's clear you haven't gotten the hang of them yet.
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Smoke Bombs do not prevent killers from hearing while inside the smoke cloud. They only block vision (not blindness). I have played killer, ran through that smoke cloud and could still the crying of the injured survivor I was chasing.
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not survivor main but feel easier as survivor then killer smoke bomb are pain on killer survivor like every survivor got one every sec.
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It takes killers 0.2 seconds to enter the void and it takes survivors 1.5 seconds to enter the void. These figures were provided by the devs but you can feel it in practice too.
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Wow killers can interact with something faster so its not a free chase win like last year. darn
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So I assume survivors aren't supposed to have fun?
Umm… yeah, pretty much
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Once the smoke fully expands, it muffles all sounds from both inside and outside the bubble, except for the terror radius. Feel free to check it out or post a clip if this isn't the case.
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Last night ... Tombstone Myers with infinite tier 4. Hid in a locker locker till entity got me.... I wasn't about to give him 4k that way. So basically instead of having fun... With game was spent hiding. Second game ...ghost face actually slipped into my stream before the match talking whatever. Ran devour hope. Moir before event he second hook. Came back all GGs. I was like ..why the... Would run devour hope during an event .... His response.... Well it's completely counterable. Well yeah but I'm not sitting here playing to counter devour hope, or tombstone or the next wraith with silent Bell etc etc. I'm running around laughing...get my tome finished stomping pumpkins. One in my group rage quit. He hasn't played in months and took him two games to say ..yeah this isn't worth it.
If BHVR wanted me to ACTUALLY play to win... They would have given me special tool boxes in my web, a void that actually favors me... Special pallets (I could go on) and not completely make yet another event something a sweaty killer easy kills. So yeah you are more than welcome to play that way in an event .. after the 3rd match we quit and went to play Helldivers. I will go back when my friends aren't on and finish the tome as killer. At least killer is fun.
I have 6 more achievements to accomplish before I can just make this my (ok I need a change in my main game so I will load up DBD). This in a nutshell, is what's wrong with DBD IMO. Go ahead killer mains... Explain why I'm wrong like you almost have a clue
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High risk/high reward. If you have distance on the killer, that other realm is there to have a confusion getaway, not to abuse like Vecna's map's portals.
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Well, hey. If y'all aren't playing the event, because all you care about is "fun," then maybe I'll hop on and finally have some good teammates who want to win.
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I don't understand why you all complain bout every event , I play both sides and iri 1 on both survivor and killer , this event I think the smoke bombs are super fun as a survivor, I've gotten away from a killer MULTIPLE times , you go into the void you're only broken for the time you're there and if you're spending longer than the seconds it takes to get the crystal then I wouldn't want to play with you . I think the event is pretty even for both sides , most people complain about how everything is killer sided but when you ask them " do you play killer " oh no I wouldn't ever want to . The event is fun for both sides , end of story .
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people are just ready to instantly jump to conclusions just because they have to feed the us vs. them narrative to the very top. Both void and smoke bombs are extremely good for survivors and literally managed to make me clutch couple of matches.
While void isn't beneficial for killers, i still have fun going into it as the killer, i mean queues are separated during this event for a reason
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Man that's terrible isn't it?
That's how killers felt last year.
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Had a really fun moment as killer (Doctor) where I spotted two survivors entering the void. I made sure they didn't see me, and I followed them out the same portal they were using, only to pop out right in front of two of them healing eachother.
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The event is super fun. Shure there is some stuff, that could be better, but that would also be the case if the event was perfect.
You are being far too hateful.
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