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I really enjoy Wolf-from only Dracula

AhoyWolf
AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

You're basically playing a different Killer! This playstyle is obviously way weaker then to just switch to whatever abillity suits the current situations, but I really enjoy just running around as the Wolf just puncing on people playing pac-man as I chase!

I sometimes wish the wolf was it's own Killer haha.

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  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 1,842

    I recommend using stealth perks too. Stealth wolf is so fun.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    I'll be sure to try some! I have been using Monitor & Abuse along the Moonstone Necklace for a 20 meter Terror Radius, but going full stealth would probably be even better! Any suggesstions?

  • TheSingularity
    TheSingularity Member Posts: 127

    Glad you're enjoying wolf form. Almost every Dark Lord encounter is just bat and Dracula rotation.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    Currently I'm trying the Obsession switch-aroo build, which kinda also works like a slow down x Stealth build if you really squint your eyes haha

    Not the best build in the world but I think it's quite fun as wolf-only dracula!

  • BlackRose89
    BlackRose89 Member Posts: 424

    I love to play Wolf Only Dracula but I find wolf so annoying to play. I think it bc Wesker is one of my fav killers and when I play wolf all Im think is that Pounce is just the worst wesker dashes. I just would love the choice of using the 2nd pounce instead of being made to do it every time I use the power. I really want wolf to be his main power tho and love to see qol changes or small buffs to it.

  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 1,842

    I personally like using Dark Devotion for hit and run off the obsession or Unforseen for plenty of time to reach another gen or two.

  • Pelaan
    Pelaan Member Posts: 221

    To bad wolf sucks compared to bat

  • Senaxu
    Senaxu Member Posts: 283

    That sounds like a nice way to play him.

    And after its future power adaptation/adjustment, the wolf will probably not be affected.

  • JustAShadow
    JustAShadow Member Posts: 179

    Wolf form is actually really good, just deceptively hard to get the hang of, so most people avoid using it.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    Even tho the Wolf form alone isn't the best, I still enjoy playing as my little worse Wesker clone!

  • albertoplus
    albertoplus Member Posts: 388

    Im sorry but this is not true at the slightest.

    I have been playing mostly Dracula-only since he came out, i play with the 3 forms and Wolf is just bad. As the "tracking tool" that Dracula has is actually terrible as tracking and in chase the Vampire form is better in 95% of loops. Hell even in some loops with high walls where you are not supposed to use Hellfire there is usually some window/pallet that makes you able to Hellfire the survivor through it or bait the survivor to not jump/throw it with Hellfire.

    Im happy if people enjoy using Wolf only, the same way as if someone is using Trapper without traps. Honestly that seems like an easy match for the survivor too so the survivors will also be happy of you using it.

  • BlackRose89
    BlackRose89 Member Posts: 424

    I did try wolf only last night after I read this post. It was ok and had few fun matches but I pretty much lost ever single one of them. I still think wolf needs some love. I stand by my claim that I would like to see them nerf bat and shift some of that power over to wolf.

  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,464

    They could have a Wolf only addon for him with som buffs to the Wolf making it more viable. I mean they to have Hag addons taking her power away and giving her speed boost instead this would be more or less the same thing.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    An add-on that removes bat form and only allows you to use Wolf form when? :3

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,821
    edited November 2

    idk, wolf only dracula is kinda terrible imo. tru3 did video on this at one point and one of his comment was that your playing worse m1 killer in the game.

    currently, i don't think wolf has much purpose other than using it as weak wesker dash between loops but that usually requires you to use bat form to position yourself well to line up the dash which require a lot of foresight and pre-planning.

    the speed boosts from wolf are non-existent in duration. it is like 2 second speed boosts and orb tracking is like worse Oni because orbs don't spawn if you don't move apparently.

    Another strange aspect of wolf is how wolf has a pallet break but recovery is as bad manually breaking a pallet. i wonder if the whole goal of wolf was to break pallet, pounce once after break and than pounce again, like triple pounce. i feel like survivor could still just hover around loop maybe it has zoning purposes like brutal strength.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    As terrible as he is, I still have fun playing him that way which I think is the most important thing you can do in this game :)

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,821

    idk, i have feeling they'll try buff wolf form in upcoming changes but like fail in bvhr fashion. than again, they might do something funny like make his orb give you 35% haste or something.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    Hmm, maybe they can actually make wolf form viable instead of the bat form! But one thing is certain, Bat form is getting nerfed no matter what haha

  • BlackRose89
    BlackRose89 Member Posts: 424

    I hope they buff Wolf but I honestly think the only thing they are doing to him in the next update is nerfing Bat. I think it's not even going to be a small nerf either. Since so many are talking about how strong bat is and some even saying it invalidates spirit, they going to slap a really heavy nerf to bat and make it his worst power.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    Yea they'll probably nerf the bat a bunch, the ideal nerf in my eyes would be to make Survivors really difficult to track, so you cannot really use it well in a chase, only for traversal, + a slightly longer switching cooldown for bat form only, so from Vampire to Wolf it would be the current 2.5 seconds, and from Wolf / Vampire to Bat it would be like 4 seconds maybe.

  • albertoplus
    albertoplus Member Posts: 388

    I mean you cannot even see them in Bat form. You also do not see pools of blood, how do you make it even harder for tracking?? The form has literally an extremely hindered tracking.

    You cannot go and just remove the scratch marks too. That would destroy it both for chase and mobility, as the survivors could now just run if they see you coming and once you transform back into Vampire/Wolf they would be far away already.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,821
    edited November 3

    they're already difficult to track. experienced killer use bat form in chase to min-max his abilities. It is not like new or middle level of players will proficiently use bat form correctly.

    the two aspect of bat form that are over-tuned by survivor/BVHR standards is Medusa's hair add-on and the fact that he has 1 second cooldown post-shape shifting to attack. Medusa hair provides 15% hindered penalty for teleporting to a window/pallet but outside of that, bat-form teleport is not a good traversal tool. The other aspect that people whine about is bat-form tracking you like spirit and him being able to m1 quickly if he lands on top of you but the whole point of bat-form is for you to juke bat-form so that he doesn't land precisely on top of you. But like old spirit, even if you give survivor exact location for where bat form is, the worse player won't bother to mind-game or have any tricky movement so you get same complaint that killer min-max ability while worse survivor players complain he's too effective at slaughtering newbies. BVHR could increase his cooldown post-shape shifting but he has also has severe m/s reduction in that 1 second that makes little clunky. So I suppose they could increase duration from like 1→ 2.5 second's but make him move at full speed when in cooldown.

  • TotemsCleanser
    TotemsCleanser Member Posts: 732

    How do you deal with windows as wolf-only? I struggle so much with windows as wolf and I think this is the right place to ask lol.

  • BlackRose89
    BlackRose89 Member Posts: 424

    As the others said I think tracking in bat is already difficult. You only have scratch marks go by really. Before anyone says anything, yes I know Bat has the ability to hear survivors 50% louder but I have NEVER noticed this part of bat's power. In fact I didn't even know this was a thing till someone pointed me to the wiki page on Dracula. So either this part of his power is bugged or the 50% louder footsteps isn't powerful enough to overcome the loud bat cries the smaller bats make. I just know whenever I used bat all I can ever hear are those annoying ass bats and survivors have always been around to juke me in bat. I have an easier time hearing and hitting survivors as a spirit than bat.

    I do think the bat needs to be torn down tho, esp the hinder addon. It's dumb to have an addon that is better than a killer's whole power(Clown's bottles). As far as the power itself maybe some small number of changes need to be done but honestly, I think bat is kinda fine overall. But if it needs to be nerfed, that fine just move some of its power over to wolf since wolf really could use the help. I just don't see BHVR doing this sady tho. As always they will nerf his most complain parts heavy and not really give him anything in exchange.

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,424
    edited November 3

    Are any of the other Dracula players having a tougher time with your Lery's matches?

    Feels like every time I get that map it's an uphill battle against map layout, and I end up spending most of it playing M1ula instead of getting full use out of abilities like wolf mode.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346
    edited November 3

    Hmm, depends on the loop, if it's a longer loop I can use Pounce to deny the window, if not I can just play a normal Killer with a 3rd person cam, low profile and ocasionally a 4.8 m/s movement speed, you cannot really go backwards, but you can go sideways so I'm doing that to mindgame Survivors a bit!

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,346

    Yea removing Scratchmarks would probably not be a good idea tbh, I don't really find tracking with him that hard tho.

    Maybe what they could do is to slightly muffle the sounds of Survivors so they're not impossible to track, but you don't really know their exact location, to make it better for tracking but worse for chasing, they could do a reverse Old Predator, where the Scratch Marks are much more spread out than usual, so you can notice them from further distances while traversing around the map, but in a chase they wouldn't be really a dead giveaway where the Survivor is heading to.