General Discussions
General Discussions
burden on the shoulders This perk should not reach the official
this thing at high ranks will be extremely broken and abusive, especially by swf. In addition, the punishment for using it is only 20 seconds of exposure, which is something insignificant, at least it should take away a state of health and not let you heal for 20s, even so this perk is too abuseable even for killers who are not tunneling
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Literally the only time that this perk will pose an issue for killers is if they tunnel? In fact if anything it rewards NOT tunnelling. Instead of going after the survivor that was just unhooked, you could go after the person who got the unhook, and then you'll already have someone in second phase???
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That exactly what I was thinking. Someone is always gonna be on the second hook when this perk is in play
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So… does that mean anything? Even if you get the Unhooker on second stage, other Survivors can also use the perk on him to remove it.
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Okay? And then they'll be on second? Regardless of how many times survivors use it, they are exposing themselves, giving the killer ample opportunity to spread hooks out, even making it easier to do so.
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Would you rather deal with Deliverance or this? They can't use both.
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the problem is that the perk encourages camping and tunneling and punishes if you don't do it
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It's not about how easy to spread out hooks. Why would Killers want to spread hooks anyway? It doesn't benefit the Killer in the slightest.
If everyone uses it, the absolute earliest you can kill someone is 6 hooks instead of 3. Tell me how that isn't game-changing, or how that benefits killer, especially on the highest level when Killers more or less need to tunnel to even have chance.
Besides, if you want to counter this as Killer, you need to proxy-camp, and down the unhooker immediately. If that Killer is occupied somewhere else, you basically get a free hook trade without any downside.
I'm not a fan of tunnelling either, but I do not like this perk at all. I guess if this goes online there'll be even more 4-man slugging Killers.
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I’m all for punishing tunnelers.. but this perk can also heavily punish killers who go for the 12 hooks.. imagine this with me.. you’re having a nice competitive match and everyone is on death hook except that one sneaky claudette.. and only 1 gen left and you need someone out of the match.. the claudette can screw up your pressure by using that perk even though you didn’t tunnel
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Deliverance requires you to unhook someone else first. That's the restriction.
Burden exposes you for merely 20 seconds, so if Killer isn't proxy camp, this perk has literally 0 downside while being extremely powerful.
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I say after using it you’re broken for 90 secs.
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Out of curiosity have you tested both together on the ptb? Can you use Shoulder and then when you get hooked you get to use deliverance despite being on second stage?
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Unfortunately I haven't, but I bet it'll work. I don't see why not since the perk lights up even though you can't use it.
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