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How is legion OP again?
Seriously, I've been running him for sometime now and if anything its cakewalk to juke him and waste out his frenzy by jumping back and forth between a pallet.
Seriously? WHO THE FUICK CAN EVEN REMOTELY CALL THIS GUY OP?!
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He’s honestly not OP. He’s just a complete snooze fest.
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Franks Mixtape+Stab Wounds Study/Cold Dirt and exploiting would like to have a word with you.
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Hillbilly and Nurse are also "ez" when someone doesn't know what they're doing or not playing seriously.
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I'm not saying he's a strong killer but i've met some good legion mains. most complaints are in the 1v1 aspect if he wants you but isn't skilled enough to win a chase he just 28 stab wounds you. Also you aren't rewarded for making distance between you in him because the game will say you lost the killer and you will start bleeding out while he is chasing then don't get me started on the most OP ability in his arsenal the moonwalk...
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He's not. Just a boring killer with annoying mechanics that break the game while still being absolute garbage.
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Well that's good to hear lol, I'll just be sad for you in 2 years when they finally listen to all the people crying about legion and make legion the worst killer in the game. Just a little prediction that will most likely happen sadly. When people say rework in the way it is not a buff it usually means I want this killer nerfed into the ground so nobody will play them!
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It depends on the individual playing and those they're playing against in addition to the add-ons being used. Over complicated way of saying no they're not OP, just very annoying, especially in the hands of tunnelers.
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In a massive nutshell there's a gamebreaking exploit that makes them literally impossible to avoid.
Outside of that there's very little counterplay to Legion which is their biggest problem. You basically either "learn to pallet stun 4head" or run around until you're stabbed 4 times. There's a limited number of pallets on the map and when they run out Legion just runs you down normally.
The main problem with Legion is that they're basically guarenteed to kill anyone they chase unless they're complete garbage, but they take forever to do it. This isn't fun for the Survivor and doesn't really feel fair as the Killer. This is also why Frank's Mix Tape is so OP because it cuts off so much of the TTK for Legion which is their biggest weakness. You have to realize that one less stab also means one less stab with the self stun, which is way more than 25% less TTK.
The exploit is the obvious biggest problem as it makes them literally uncounterable, but there are other issues too and I think Legion needs a lot of tweaking. Not a full rework as I think their concept is workable unlike, say, Freddy. But it's still a big problem for the game as a whole and definetly not what Behavior was aiming for.
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Well that's an exploiting piece of shet killer and that says NOTHING for those who play him legit.
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I guess I'll just post some legion memes now
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Which sadly seems to be a vast majority of the Legion player base on pc right now and I've faced over 100 different ones and perhaps 6 never exploited.
One of those actually never uses Deep wounds ever and just M1's you down and he's an absolute beast. He never tunnels nor camps and always roams the map and still can 3-4k most games.
But it's also enjoyable to play against them because they make it fun and not oh here let me stab you then look at the ground. I've even faced Insidious Legions camping right next to the hook or proxy ones.
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he's already the worst killer in the game
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if you're getting downed by a 110 killer m1ing you please actually uninstall the game, you just aren't cut out for this one, play a different one.
but i don't believe you at all, legion is worthless without moonwalking, and still worthless while moonwalking
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You may wanna second guess that statement:
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You just aren’t a good killer.
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please, go play huntress or hag without placing any traps or using hatchets and show us consistent 3-4ks
claiming that a 110 killer with no power can "3-4k most games" isn't just just a lie, it's downright delusional
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freddy is underrated by most of the community
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Legion is a fun killer. Either survivors just DC, which always makes me giggle with joy, or they actually know how to counter it, which leads to intense chases. Yes, some of you sad creatures keep saying there isn't a counter to Legion. Objectively speaking, this is bullcrap. Not having scratch marks is HUGE. Here's a tip: you have to start looping around windows/pallets in a location that's either a jungle gym or some other location that has walls you can't see through. Pallet Country in the middle on Gas Heaven for example, is not good at all. If you're hit the second time, (or just the first time, but he abandons you to chase someone else), lose LOS as while he's still in stun, and try to take a route he'd expect the least. Mend and spread. If someone is hit and you hear the TR, don't wait or hide, just run. Try to figure out early whether he's trying to tunnel, or he's more like the "hit 'em all" kind of Legion (this is more likely if he uses Thanathophobia), and adjust your tactics accordingly.
I' not even saying it's easy, you actually must have a quick mind. But that's why it's fun.
People who say there's no counter to Legion are just unwilling to do anything else than running in circles around a pallet loop. Of course you losers go down :) And instead of learning new tactics, you find it more proper to come here and scream like kids. Very impressive :)
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You said that if you got downed my a 110% movement m1ing killer then you sucked, hag still M1’s I’m not a good huntress at all, spirit still M1’s have you seen legion with cold dirt/Joey’s mixtape?
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you're just being intentionally disingenuous
he claimed that a killer was getting consistent 4ks as legion WITHOUT USING THEIR POWER
that is not something that happens, it's ridiculously easy to loop a 110 killer if they don't use their power
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@deathsia Legion can be on so many differing power levels mainly due to the add-ons at their disposal.
Many will clam that Frank's Mixtape + Stab Wound Study (or Cold Dirt) is Legions best combo, but I know better. Both of these add-ons require 3 Frenzy hits with limited Frenzy duration.
The actual best add-on combo is Cold Dirt + Joey's Mixtape, just get the first hit with Feral Frenzy and then get as close as possible, then cancel Frenzy and get a quick M1 in after the 2 second cool down. It takes only 1 Frezy stab and 1 M1 for a total of 2 hits with this combo. (Compared to the 3 hits both Frank's combos have.)
Legion can do better with perks that buy and save time like Corrupt Intervention and Whispers, you just NEED at least uncommon add-ons if you actually want to get a kill.
My newest perk strategy is to use Monitor and Abuse for better ambushes. Then when Killer Instinct activates I do a quick spin if I hear a heartbeat to see where the next closest target is. Then just finish he chase and hook to use BBQ to get intel on the far away people while using the info from Killer Instinct to get the next survivor, rinse and repeat until they stop moving.
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Legion + Rotten Fields = DEFINITELY not OP....lol
Legion is so short, you cant even see the damn corn move. Needless to say, the match didnt go very well...lol
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@Chicagopimp2019 You just need more practice. In the absolute worst case scenarios, just follow the blood puddles on the ground.
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I do that as Trapper. Blood tracking is a nice thing for me.
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The only thing I don’t like about legion (playing him at least) is his normal walk speed, it’s way too slow I just lose survivors when I’m out of feral frenzy. If his walkspeed was a little faster I would be fine with him. Playing against him I have hardly any problems except people who exploit with him but that’s just a problem with players not the character
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I definitely need to get better, but even the blood is tough to spot in that cornfield. Still waiting for bloodhound to appear in my bloodweb...lol
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This right here. And according to some, a lot of people exploit Legion.
But that's the same thing as someone saying 'I face sweaty SWF in all my matches'. It's either you face the minority a majority of the time, or you don't.
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So what you're saying is that a killer that can move at 220% isn't any good and if you're getting downed by them you shouldn't play? Now who's the delusional one here, yes that's right that'd be you.
Oh and Bloodlust says hi during chases and if perkless Freddy can 3-4k in a good killers hands it'd mean you're wrong again.
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Freddy getting 4k without addons...lol wow.
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Legion moves at 220 base?
freddy is a pretty good killer too, and if you need bloodlust to finish chases those chases are already going WAY too long lol
legion is crap
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some say he is and isn't.. but to me this depends on the legion and the experience they have and their play-style and how they play it out. do they moonwalk? respect pallets? if they are moon-walking with or without franks mix-tape you can say goodbye to that match to you. he is considered OP in terms of that. because whats the survivor suppose to do? u have no protection against it there gotta be more counterplay to the kit. they can choose to tunnel someone down into the ground. that's how much power they have in a way.
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