Will there be Shoulder The Burden changes in hotfix 2?

don't see it much in solo q. The few times I've brought it I've gotten little value because I end up being chased first, teammates unhook before I can use STB, etc.

par the course for so called 'game breaking' perks that only affect game balance for swf or high mmr, relatively meaningless in solo q

I actually think that's one of the times tunneling is fine. If you're a 4 man swf you already decided this is a comp match more or less.

This is the worst design to further widen the gap between SoloQ and PT, so it was never a park that should have been created in the first place. Naturally, it is designated as prohibited in the competition scene without question.

I’m not sure what they could even do without completely reworking it.

Like, extending the exposed effect would at some point make it a net negative perk. And the only other option is removing the main functionality of the perk.

It’d be like way back when, when NOED didn’t have its exposed effect until you got it to tier 3.

it's survivor thing. survivor will defend it saying nerf tunneling. It is unlikely to get any changes. all you can hope is that thrill doesn't get much of change. shoulder of burden set negative precedent for killer because the killer now need to be balanced around 9 and 10 hooks(12 hooking) instead of 7 hooking. Lots of killer are not balanced around 12 hooking. they're balanced around efficient tunneling.

Because Survivors shiuldn't be able to control ALL the things Killers use to pressure. What if there were a perk that did this for Killers and randomly added hookstages to someone with the most stages? Still fair?

It wasn't a good perk idea and shouldn't have come live.

Let's play devils advocate and say that they are on comms.

Does that help a player with 5 hours or a player with 5000h? People with a lot of experience can use extra informal a lot more than people with less. However:

Does it matter?

Peoplw log on to play a few rounds with friends. More often than not these people don't take the game very serious and throw because of that.

They play with friends. They have fun. They have fun escaping and they have fun dying. At least they do it together and that's what matters.

Of course there are people that do not share this sentimentality and to be completely honest here, these people should try to reevaluate their values.

Is the 4man swf on comms, when played at the most optimal level, the strongest thing in dbd? Yes. I'm convinced they are. Are these groups common. Absolutely not. The majority of swf are just friends having fun… in a GAME.

Life is awful enough already. Games bring people together and offer escapism like few forms of media can provide. Playing with a friend in dbd provides this form of escapism.

To end this, because I feel like I derailed a bit sorry, think about why you hit start start button the next time you want to play dbd, or any game for that matter. It can help.

I still never get anyone on my team using it, goodness I must really be unlucky and its been what 2 weeks of release?

Stacking the perk is only relevant if the same person is getting hooked over and over, in which case it's an anti-tunnel perk working against tunnelling.

This is not true though and that's the problem.

There are cases where you can use StB even if the killer is not tunneling.

For example if the hook stages are 1-1-1-0, then 2-1-1-0, the killer is playing fair. But the 4th survivor can now go for the rescue and use the perk against him, making it 1-1-1-1.

Stacking the perk is only relevant if the same person is getting hooked over and over, in which case it's an anti-tunnel perk working against tunnelling.

Daisy-chaining it has no value, it just shifts the risk around from one person to the next. It's just using the perk for the sake of using it.

I'm afraid it's a lot more than that. The perk as it is now can be used to force the killer to go 3-1-1-1 before their first kill. Basically, it can punish every killer who doesn't go for 1-1-1-1 not just the ones who tunnel. Of course, solos will not be able to achieve that, but a well-coordinated SWF could, effectively making the solo-SWF balance even worse. As much as I hate tunneling as a game mechanic, it is not reasonable to force the killers to get 6+ hooks against a good team, AND at the same time still allow them to tunnel solo players.

Don't get me wrong I agree that people exaggerate the strength of this perk, and it kind of makes me happy that tunnelers will get their butt kicked for once, but I also think this is indeed a bad perk for the game long-term. Here's why:

• Solos will throw the game more often than not while attempting to use this perk. Many times the killer will be tunneling and you go for the unhook with StB, but another teammate steals the unhook and denies it, so you effectively just wasted time. Then next game, you will be scared that someone steals the unhook again, so you rush the rescue and unhook too early, which actually helps the tunneler. This perk is just too difficult to coordinate for solos, and can be too easily ruined by teammates who think they do the right thing (unhook). This will lead to frustration towards teammates, especially new players. As said I don't have any issue with anti-tunneling mechanics, but the problem is the perk as-is gives this anti-tunnel ability to SWFs and not to solos.
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• Tunneling should be fixed with basekit mechanics, not perks. We now have 3 perks to counter tunneling and still 0 basekit mechanic. Encouraging this perk will reinforce BHVR in their stance that "tunneling is part of the game" because SWFs now have tons of ways to counter it when in reality it keeps getting worse and worse for solos.