'Why Do Killers Play So Sweaty?' A Rant.

If you stack the odds in your favor, in any way, you are not chill, you are sweating.

If you intentionally stack them as much as possible with the intent of winning, sure. But when I load up DBD with 3 friends who barely play and we are on comms cracking jokes, I'm chilling out and hoping they have fun without being tunneled as they don't look behind themselves in chase and don't know anything about the game. I'm stacking the odds in my favor by being in a full SWF with comms but I'd argue that is still chill. Intent matters.

I'd say in a similar vein, running a shoulder/BT/babysitter/reassurance build is chill while running UB/deli/DS/OTR is sweaty despite both being very strong. But how you play matters more imo.

I'm not sure where you got the impression that my reply was a knee-jerk reaction or that I was offended. Your statement said "stacking the odds in your favor in any way is sweating" and I disagreed, so I made a reply explaining as such. If you meant "in every way" instead of "in any way", then I agree with you, so no need for passive aggressiveness.

imo when people talk about "chill" they are referring to macro gameplay and not micro gameplay like chase. On the killer end, not tunneling, camping, or slugging is enough to be seen as chill. On the survivor end, this basically boils down to "don't slam gens as fast as possible", but it's also really hard to show that you're chill given that how you spend your time outside of chase is not something the killer sees.

The fact that it is an event changes nothing especially with a SBMM system based on kills/escapes and the fact that the Mistle Toe offerings only are personal doesn't help to dissuade either side not to play sweaty

Yep!

Knock Out and Boil Over, I would say. Miserable, both of them.

For me its pretty much this. Anythine that helps the game to not be over before the 8min mark (or actually 10min mark - but the forums already consider that a long game … ludecrous!) and giving everyone the room to play and even have a little fun on the side. Against gen slammers I can hardly effort to nod at a downed survivor who gave me a good chase, while today during a game that I was stomping, I cornered a survivor and let them get away that time with a phat snowball to the face.

Playing chill doesn't mean "throwing every game", even though some peeps like to spin it like this, but it also means not pursuing each and every opportunity to win, like when the unhooked survivor gets confused, pathes badly and runs straight by me, but I just roll me eyes and ignore that and chase after their unhooking teammate.

But if the whole game has been sweaty af and the gens were slammed hard, of course I won't ignore such a blunder, but capitalize on it. Today I had two very fun matches where I went for 12 hooks, because snowballs were involved and the survivors weren't hellbend on endinge the game on the 6min mark - two died, two escaped, but everyone had fun. The very next game, I had a 3 man SWF, with everyone running about with UB, Boil Over and sabo boxes. That was decidedly NOT fun and I instantly switched gears and tunneled one out. But I let the 4th one who wasn't in it escape via hatch.

Another part of why killers are "sweaty" is just the information game, they don't know what survivors have and often have to play "ahead" of the curve in terms of match progress to win consistently. And while they might have an idea of which objectives where are being done how progressed they are. They don't actually know how efficient survivors were in that time until they get a chance to actually go to the area. A bbq read on a meg who just got on a gen after cleansing 2 totems and opening a chest at the start of the match looks the same as a meg who was on the gen the whole time. You usually have to play for worst case scenario or if you don't spend a lot of matches feeling like you COULD have won them if you played properly from the start instead of giving them to benefit of the doubt breathing room that most teams will take all the way to the exit gate as they dance their way out.

This is so strange cause same; like my goodness folk that nasty in this community?? (I know it's not all thankfully but too many).

I'll say "GG WP <3" and I've had folk legit message me separately in steam about how kind/appreciative they were.

As I am a P100 Deathslinger main and just a killer main in general, I think the word "sweaty" is just overused in general. I feel like the correct definition of the word is using your killers power well, which I can do with Deathslinger. The other one is what most scummy killers do, unless you are doing it for pressure. Survivors are going to complain about killers playing sweaty, meanwhile they will bring crutch perks like WoO and Adrenaline and win the game singlehandedly because of them…

"Knock Out is a horrible perk in solo queue. But I fortunately almost never see it." That's why you never see it, it falls apart against SWF.

Game goes however it wants sadly. Sometimes youl be on survivor and first thing 2 people start throwing the match just standing there getting downed. So then you expect the killer might give you a break because you were still trying to play etc. Nope. You cant expect the killer to care as you dont know what theyve been through nor how they like to play. Likely the first "break" theyve gotten in a while too so they just mow everyone down. And likewise on killer you play "honorably" and "by the survivor rule book" and you expect they will respect you. Nope. T bags, bragging and laughing and clicking all the way, you cant expect survivors to care either as you dont know what kind of killers theyve been up against before you or how they like to play. So either way the best thing you can do is hope they care and have some honor, but if they don't, immediately stop caring about them as well. Like the bming ace, easy enough to just ignore them like they are invisible while the others go down quicker because he wont take hooks for them. Once hes alone and the hatch is closed, and you see him before he gets to a gate. Hes dead no matter what. If he gets out oh well, let him sit there at the gate while you take a quick break in the middle of the map lol

You must not ever play survivor if you think windows or adrennaline are going to have much of an impact at all on eacaping or not. Also if those are crutch perks than every single killer power is a crutch. With how killer sided thia game is now an m1 killer with no power can probably get almost 50% kills.

I do feel like it's hard to have fun in the event without totally throwing.

But I guess even if you lose because all you did was throw snowballs at people, it can still be fun. 😂

mentality that could first be seen in fortnite, your opponent doesn't play for fun because they don't give you hundreds of other chances when you make a mistake, but if they goof off with you, they deserve to lose the match, but at least get a "+rep" from you like it's something better than a win

I feel that Survivors always tend to play sweaty until they run into an unfortunate situation in which they start to plead and then complain in the end game chat and leave mad comments on your steam profile lol. And then we got those teams with discord that i just faced. Full epic layout with bis addons and perks, The game was not intended to be used with communication otherwise they would have had a communication option in the game itself and you dont know before you know and so the safest thing is to tunnel someone out in case its the case so that the pace slow down and you dont find yourself in a ######### situation because you wanted to have "fun" with some people , if you give them a second, will sit and mock you and teebag you and talk ######### about you in end chat.

So Survivors should blame their fellow friends for the slugging/tunneling gameplay as they are playing with an unfair advantage , or some do. Because once you face such a sweaty team who is like , im being carried to the hook at the killer shack do this do that over voice and flashlighting unhooking and throwing flash bombs and shoulder the whole team got shoulder the burden and so on reprecussions has to be made. The next 5 teams or so one face is going to bleed out slowly and right before they are dying you lift them up and let them escape and down their teammate and let them bleed out for another 5 minutes when there is only 2 left and then eventually they are allowed to die and this is only because of you.

I haven't truly enjoyed an event as survivor in a couple of years now. Killer is the only role I consistently have fun as anymore.