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Ghostface should be buffed, again.
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Specifically, his Reveal needs a full rework to be fairer to both sides, and his lean needs fixing. He could also stand an addon pass again. And honestly, maybe something to help a bit with map mobility or info.
Please and thank you. Let's make Stealth Killers decent again, you did it for Myers now let's see other horror icons get help.
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I'm just sick of the needless whining over people unwilling to learn how to play against my Main when he's nearly perfectly balanced and the only things wrong with him are some mechanics jank that could be fixed, plus maybe a bit more QoL. He's not a problem, never has been, never will be.
People need to learn to play against the Killers instead of begging for handholds.
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He isn't balanced imo he has too many ways to stalk. Leaning and crouching or leaning while standing one or the other and he can still stalk in chase and while standing without leaning at a distance like Myers. I think first he needs his reveal mechanic reworked then based on that buff him if needed.
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"The stalker is too good at the one thing he can do" isn't a valid complaint and I think you know that. Come on now… learning line of sight cannot be that hard. I don't for one second believe you're so helpless, so stupid, so unskilled, or so incapable of using your eyes and ears to counter a basic M1 Killer. Have a little faith in yourself.
And everyone who upvoted you should be just as ashamed. Like, seriously, the number of upvotes you have is SHAMEFUL and alarming, surely people don't think they're so bad at this game they need to have every single slightly annoying element whitewashed and gently removed from the game until all that's left is a bland pablum of an M1 Killer that can't do anything but chase, right? Do you or anyone who upvoted you really think you, other Survivors, and people who like playing this character deserve to have the Killer entirely destroyed this way? Really? For an M1 Killer who has no chase pressure, no antiloop, and no map traversal at all?
This is where we're at. A Killer that has NOTHING but stealth and an instant down is too hard for people now. I cannot believe how far players have fallen in self confidence when someone like Dracula is considered fine but nah, Ghostface is too much. Just honestly so, so sad that nobody has the confidence to do the simplest counterplay anymore and would rather complain about stuff that is honestly, WAY worse on so many other Killers. Oni and Billy have antiloop and speed with their instant down, Chucky and Wraith have stealth with their chase potential, but Ghostface with only those two things and who is weaker than all four in all respects is unfair?
Are we all okay?
His Lean mechanic is actually broken right now, and needs to be fixed. He's unable to lean on things he's supposed to be able to, and it's been this way since Blight's collision was fixed. And Stalking in chase was no problem before, so why is it a problem now?
I agree his Reveal needs to be more consistent on both ends. It's unfair to be revealed behind walls when you're actually hiding, but neither should he be right in front of you and not able to be revealed. I think it actually is to do with ping and it's a problem with how ping works.
I reiterate: Ghostface is not unfair nor is he the problem. His mechanics are not the problem. All the glitches with the mechanics, and the fact he really could stand some buffs in general and a Reveal workover, ARE. THAT is what needs changing, but if you simply take those away or neuter them too much all you will have is a D tier Killer who can't DO anything or worse, another Skull Merchant rework situation, and an extremely unhappy fanbase (a quite large one, this character is generally beloved by the community).
Post edited by SidneysBane1996 on4 -
he needs a huge tweak to empower his stalking mechanic and discourage the "Chaseface" strategy since he is a killer meant for ambush downs
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I just wish we still had smolface. Smolface was bestface.
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There's a lot of this in the community right now. Survivors unwilling to adapt to change rather make a fuss about it and it works because if one side stops playing the game is no more. Obviously it goes both ways but I feel like historically (Don't quote me on this) killers have taken nerfs a lot better than survivors. This Chucky thing is really bringing people down however so… We'll see
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I feel like as Survivor I could stare them straight on and never reveal them meanwhile as Killer I get revealed through walls from miles away.
It definitely has issues, Idk if it has to do with new versus old tilesets, but it definitely has issues.
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As a survivor, I've revealed him while he was literally behind me (not even in view). Got that one on video, too. It's pretty silly.
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true reveal thing needs a good rework, because it's unfair when nothing happens when directly stared at him, other things are fine, also 99 stalking should also not exist it's not fair to get 1 hit out of nowhere
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Its not fair but its fun so it should stay and maybe even mor encouraged
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enjoy your 20k bps from match then since there is no chase
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- Gens fly.
- Safety is close, plentiful and interconnects.
- There are back to back second chances all over the place.
- All Ghostface gets are legs and a knife.
- Exhaustion perks exist.
But 99 stalking isn't fair? An interesting perception.
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GF is strong and not fair, especially on indoor maps, there is always a room to improve with any killer, you can't 4k at your first 10 matches, that's a logical thing…
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Oh yeah, man. When I activate nightshroud in chase, people may as well just drop their controllers cause it's over.
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I kinda agree with that.
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100% this
He's among the stealthiest killers in the game and has instadown.
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If 99 stalking isn't problematic on Myers, it's not problematic on Ghostface. If holding hatchets and holding M2s on other Killers is not problematic, then 99ing as Ghostface is not problematic.
In fact it should be more encouraged, as it's considered skillful Ghostface Play and should IMHO gain you more points or benefits if you use Stalking well, Ghostface has always had this problem where he misses out on some points because he's not supposed to chase a whole lot. THAT is what isn't fair. I can 4k as him and get 20k points spreading hooks because I simply. Never. Get. Any. Chase, and using his power alone isn't enough. There is a TRADEOFF for how powerful 99ing can be.
Reveal him before he does that, that's the intended counterplay to 99ing. He can't do anything if you force him out of Shroud and make him hit you, he loses all the stalk. It's fair, it has counterplay, and the Devs will never remove it.
You need to learn to play around it. He's been here since 2019.
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I'm seeing this constantly and it frustrates me. Have we really become so spineless as Survivor players that we're saying C TIER M1 KILLERS are too much? I don't get it, not even in the depths of the 3gen meta have I seen THIS much complaining. What happened to Survivors, is everyone OK? Is this a symptom of new players coming in? Is there a gas leak?
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He has to catch you with nothing but a knife…
In an obstacle course designed for you to have an easy time escaping…
What the hell, man?
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Well so does Doctor. So does Sadako. So does dredge. And meyers….
Are you seriously complaining because he doesn't have a gun, projectile vomit, or some other form of ranged attack?
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I think they're complaining that people are complaining that THESE Killers that have "nothing but a knife" are too strong. Which is definitely a what the fog moment.
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Exactly, this situation is nutty.
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That is exactly why he needs a buff, not a nerf, because he lacks chase points, because he's not good at chase, because he's an ambush Killer. He should be given more points for what he IS good at but still have SOMETHING for being smart enough to somehow use his power in chase against Survivors. Maybe start by making mindgaming a points event, both sides. That would reward chase.
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