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Which killer do you think needs a rework/tweak/update or addon pass?
That was one of the questions in behaviors survey. Who did you put in each category ?
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I say trickster needed update,
Pyramid head needs add on reworks or updates even though I do not play him, I enjoy versing him.
Plague a full rework and hell a name change, puking on someone is one of the most cringe thing I ever seen, and my friend who has eating disorders for cant play vs her.
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I have put Sadako in rework, because she is my favorite killer and I want her to get a revert to her first version, which was more fun and stronger.
As of the addon pass, pyramid head and demogorgon need one. Demos addons are so boring, non of his addons are interesting. Pyramid head is a bit better, but also not that great.
No idea who to put for update and tweaks. Maybe doctor for update, because I want his illusions to do something.
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I think Onryo needs a tweak. She isn't terrible, but I wish she was a little bit more powerful, but there is no need to change her substantially.
For an update, I'd say Skull Merchant. If said update was nothing but reverting all of her previous nerfs it would already be enough. Her previous iteration was perfectly fine, and I'll die on this hill. What they did to her was unfair, no other word to describe it.
As for a rework… Freddy, of course. Probably the only killer in the game who needs one. We have to get as far away from his post-rework power as possible. Because the truth is: after patch 3.1.0 Freddy was never in a good spot. First was the Forever Freddy days and then the weak version we have now, and no one wants either of those in the game.
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I agree with both. I wonder whether or not they are going to revert him like in the design preview some time ago.
It is very unlikely that part of plague gets changed.
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On the weak end, Freddy. He desperately needs a rework and add on pass.
Funnily enough, I think Blight's strongest add ons still need to be dialed back a bit to be more in line with Nurse's add ons.
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On the weak end, Freddy. He desperately needs a rework and add on pass.
Exactly. He has suffered long enough.
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I didn’t put him in rework, because it is already confirmed he gets one, so it felt a bit wasted putting him in this slot, but sure he needs one.
Well for skull merchant I just say I’m biased.
My problem with Sadako is her design is extremely hit or miss. If you get good survivors, they can make you powerless easily all day and if they have no clue how she works, then she is a monster. Additionally I don’t like that survivors are forced to turn TVs off and that TV auras are shown, because chasing becomes so bad and that was my favorite part about her.
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You could put Freddy in all 3 tbh…
I put Freddy in rework, Demo in update and Pyramid head in addon pass.
Update could also go to Sadako, Pig, Trapper or Trickster.
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Well for skull merchant I just say I’m biased.
Towards her or against her?
I'm a bit curious now.
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Against her. She got too many things in her kit, that required 0 skill. Regardless she got overnerfed, but some of the nerfs were rightfully done. My biggest issues with her were her undetectable and the haste she got from scanned survivors.
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I’m a bit confused right now. Update means something bigger, reworks change the power fundamentally and tweaks are just number changes or?
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I see.
Well, I disagree, but that is okay.
As for Sadako, the other killer we've mentioned I think the basics of her design are fine. I just wished she was a little bit more powerful, like maybe increase the time between glimpses or something similar.
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What do you mean with glimpses?
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This was in the survey, yes. They even asked it twice, probably as a test so if someone answered anything different, their answers afterwards would probably not be considered, since the person answering it did not understand what a Rework, what an Update and what a Tweak is.
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I put down
Freddy for a Rework
Skull Merchant for an Update
Pinhead for a Tweak
Pyramid Head for an addon pass.
Freddy rework is mostly self explanatory, his current version just isn't "freddy" it doesn't feel like freddy. His original version had its problems, but thematically it felt like freddy. On top of that, he is just weak in a way that simple numbers tweaks won't fix.
For Skull Merchant, i thought she was fine before TBH, people just hated playing against her because of how she used to be. Nothing she did was really that much of a problem. Even now, people just DC or die on purpose against her and she's one of the worst killers in the game. They need to bring her back up to par, do some tweaking and turn her into what they originally intended her to be a "build your own killer" Her power should basekit be about using drones for information, and hurting survivors if they stay in them too long. From there, the addons should change how she plays and what she does. That way people can tweak what they want her to do.
For pinhead, i feel he is one of the better designed killers and just needs some numbers tweaks. I'd like him to have his chains be a bit better, but his box be a bit weaker. He shouldn't break his own chains for 1, and his camera switching should get snappier like we have with later releases like houndmaster and singularity. And also the perk fixated should not be a hard counter to him. Beyond that, the box should be nerfed a bit to be less annoying. That way the RNG element is weaker, but the more skill-based element is stronger.
For Pyramid Head again i feel this is mostly self explanatory. He literally has 3 good addons and all of them are just upgrades of the same thing, and even THEN they aren't THAT great. Almost every addon needs to be reworked to do something useful.
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I said it right or?
Didn’t they put in the survey what each meant as you were able to choose?
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I actually play her pretty decent and get mostly good results. I just don’t enjoy being either super strong, when survivors don’t understand her and being super bad, when survivors understand her.
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Yeah, you said it right. They asked in the Survey what the Understanding was. And as I said, two times - one time they asked what a Rework, what an Update and what a Tweak was and then they did the opposite and gave definitions and asked if the definition/description belonged to a Rework, to an Update or to a Tweak.
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Those brief periods of invisibility she has while demanifested.
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like maybe increase the time between glimpses or something similar.
Thanks for clarifying. Why would you increase the time between them tho? That would make her visible for longer. I would do the opposite and reduce the time between them, because she would be visible for less time and survivors would get confused more easily. Overall buffs to her chase would be very cool.
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I would do the opposite and reduce the time between them, because she would be visible for less time and survivors would get confused more easily.
Actually yeah, that is what I meant. I expressed myself poorly.
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I was putting in killers like Hag and Trapper.
Both need some help.
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