Why do killers think they always losing?

so what do you think players should do? use the weaker perks and try to lose on purpose otherwise mmr goes up? it's not a universal law dbd and mmr is not that optimal. you can also take a new killer and start catching people with 7k hours already.

I am playing both roles. And i am winning my 70-80% of killer matches while it's around 30% for my survivor matches. I am DbD player since 2018 and DbD was never that easy for killer role. I don't know what people want more tbh.

but you are not answering the most important question: do you play in swf and are you at least a little prepared or do you play onlyq? there is a huge difference.

if in swf you win 30% of the games you simply have to improve because you don t have a high level.

Because it always feels like you're losing, from start to end. When you lose enough, you can almost feel the flow of the match, and notice trends in what leads to your loss. It's like, "Oh, that first chase was 45 seconds instead of 15. I'm probably losing now." Or, "I used Pain Res when I didn't need to, and now I'm wasting a use of Pop. 1 mistake and I lose." So it's not like we want the game handed to us, rather we just want something. Killer should never be scared of chasing at a certain spot and have to RETREAT from the survivor to go find something more productive to do, but it happens constantly at shack, jungle gyms, house of pain, and broken main buildings like in Badham or Garden Of Joy. Take a chase there vs a survivor who knows how to run it, you'll lose the whole game. And that's the problem: 1 survivor knows how to loop, killer could lose the whole game. The game functions off of the assumption that survivors do gens inefficient, don't use strong perks, and don't loop well. I have queued up with SWF who know what they're doing and, unless something crazy happens, it's a cakewalk basically every time. Funnily enough, they'll still say "Chucky's OP because of his stealth." and crap like that. Just goes to show that no matter the skill level, but especially at low level, survivors are gonna complain about killers being too strong, even when they're given everything they need and more to win against them.

I am playing SWF and Solo-q depends if my friends are online or not. SWF is more fun, that's for sure but there is not big difference between solo and swf too much. Killers are dominating most of games.

Here's another important point you made: you make a mistake as killer against good people and you compromise the game 95%, if you make a mistake as surv you still have a lot of margin to get back into the game.

this thing you wrote is one of the things most possibly far from reality. if you don't notice a difference between soloq and swf it means that you are players below average skill. which is honesty as a thing. but it therefore means that you don't have the right to speak because you don't know how the games are balanced between a Top Killer full meta perk vs Swf full meta perk. But I say: there must be a reason if in the "competitive" of this game the teams are nerfed from using 80% of the meta perks, no anti camping, and using specific maps, if the game was balanced?

You CAN'T just turn your brain off. It's impossible as killer, because there's too much to juggle. I mean, you can, but then you just lose. And tunneling does work against SWF, just to a lesser extent because they can body block when you were gonna down the person, and force bad chases with coordinated yo-yoing and hook counting.

I would like to see the MMR rating for everyone. In fact, everyone should be for it. The reason it's hidden is to deceive players and to force confused, angry conversation. Or it could be that, like their hiding of Prestige in lobby, they're trying to protect people's feelings. Either way it's an insidiously bad practice.

1. Saying that for opinion, yes it's insult.
2. The last time BHVR shared stats, there was not big difference between soloq & swf. I guess BHVR is illogical as well lol.

Killers are winning most of the games, it does not matter if they face with solo team or swf team. That's the fact from official stats.

If you are escaping half of the time, then you are on high mmr as survivor. The last time they shared stats, that was the stat for high mmr survivors. So either you are in 5% of high mmr survivors or you are calculating your escape rate wrong.

No, it's partially a product of me playing solo queue (where I don't escape as much, which probably keeps my MMR lower) and then going back to SWF.

I think I escape…maybe half the time in an SWF? But we are going off the house rules, where 3o is a 'win' for survivors and 2o is a draw. So logically I don't escape as much as we win - if that makes sense.

exactly, when i'm in full tryharding mood i win most of the games, now i don't have a precise counter, but i win most of them and they are definitely more than half of the total games. it doesn't seem like such a strange or unrealistic thing lol, i didn't write that i win 99 games out of 100.

There are more killers playing the survivors role than survivors playing as killers, for the simple logic that killers also have friends to play with. And don't forget that playing as killer without having previously farmed the meta perks is pure masochism, new players tend to play as survivors for obvious reasons.

If the killrate is around 60% and in your games the killer always gets a 4K, it only means that somewhere there are killers having a really hard time. Just as an example, recently a well-known VTuber with mostly survivor experience made a stream in which she didn't archieve a single kill in two hours playing the game.

I repeat, I don't have a count of the games. But I remember more or less the last 21 games played in the last few days. I lost 6 (for defeat i mean also draws) I remember them because I was chatting with a friend and updating her on my progress as a killer, and sometimes I save games that I send to her on yt. But I repeat, the % is very random, it depends on which killers I use (I use all killers, some better, some worse), it depends on how much I want to tryhard, it depends on the time I play, the day of the week (on the weekend the frequency of getting comp players is much higher). I consider it a very normal percentage honestly, for me if you are a main Blight or Nurse full tryharding or more simply you have a main killer you can have much higher percentages.

The reason why Killers think that because the game is designed in a way that losing will always sting more than winning. Killers who lose have their time wasted by tbagging survivors holding the game hostage, get trash talked and verbally abused in endgame chats, with some groups going as far as finding their Steam and social media profiles to continue their abuse.

So, of course, they gain a mindset that they absolutely CAN'T lose. Losing means being attacked solely because "losers" deserve to be abused. "Winners" get the undisputed right to treat the opposing party like dirt - and walk away unpunished. Of course, winning doesn't prevent the abuse from happening but at least there is "They're angry because I beat them" rationalization.

And the game doesn't punish or prevent this behavior, it encourages it. It encourages time wasting, it offers plenty of user interactions that don't work as intended, which further fuels the players' desperation not to be on the losing side. Not because winning feels good, but because losing feels absolutely horrible. And when new players get introduced to DbD in its current state, this is the experience they get. I recently reported players for harassing a baby PH who openly admitted they were getting used to playing the killer, but got replies like "Not my problem baby you're still trash". I don't know how many new DbD players actually stay in the game after that, but I won't be surprised if they leave after the first two weeks. Good for them.

One of they ways of fixing the mindset, is to limit the interactions and remove options to hold the game hostage. Reduce EGC timer, remove engame chat, remove options to view players' Steam profiles — if the game is over, its's over and everyone must move to the next. I'd also say creating an entirely separate queue for SWF squads and those who wish to play against them, but it's beyond BHVR's capabilities.

This is pretty true. What helped me as killer was playing anonymous. Now I don't feel like I have anything to prove - nothing is tied to my name. I'm just some anonymous p100 ghostie that occasionally gets asked if I'm some streamer hiding my identify, lol.